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@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 These laws are made in response to a social cause. It doesn't mean women don't commit sexual offences. There are different sections under which those are covered. These specific laws are introduced to instill the sense of security in the women.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 Galat law bante hai logic pe india me aisa nhi hota Prime example

54 वर्ष का व्यक्ति सुप्रीम कोर्ट तक तलाक़ के मामले में जाता है। जज साहब पूछते हैं कि one टाइम एल्युमनी कितनी दे सकते हो। यह आदमी बताता है कि लगभग 65,000 सैलरी है तो ज्यादा नहीं दे पाऊंगा और 16 साल का अलगाव हो गया अब तो आजाद करिए। जज साहब कहते हैं कि अगर पैसे नहीं हैं तो 15,000 रुपए गुज़ारा भत्ता दे रहे हो देते रहो, 15,000 होते ही क्या हैं। ( तालियों की गड़गड़ाहट imagine कर लीजिए) साभार : बार एंड बैंचेस

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Those are fair points no doubt in that. But we need to understand jab law banaye gaye toh haalat kya thi. Us pov se banaya gaya. Misuse hote hai, har roj hote hai. But iska solution sirf law me nahi hai.

Society issue hai vhi to m kehra hu Women ko agar shadi todne ke baad 30-50% Alimony milega maintenance milega to chote matter ko bada banake ya affairs me aake nikalne ka easy chance de rahe ho aap Ab women khud to rukegi nhi ,parliament jab tak law nhi banati tab tak court ispe law bana sakta hai because there is no law on prenups Doosra kisi ko maintenance dena hai ye to law hai pr vo kitna hona chye ye courts decide krti hai Aur isme bhut variance hai Qki Law aisa hai jisme aadmi ka harassment hona tai hai isiliye sabke nishane par vahi hai U need to understand this chronology behind judiciary Agar aap women ko bematlab ke benefits nhi doge shadi todne ke to ghar bhi bachege , Society bhi But then courts , lawyers ka jo ecosystem hai vo kaise chalega??

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 It's not about that bhai. I get you. But dawa doctor de tohi thik hota hai. Baap ekhaad bar dawa dede toh woh har maamle me nahi de sakta. Same with judiciary ( baap) . Parliament the doctor.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 Sorry bhai m ab haar gaya

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Are no bhai i am defending anyone my main point is changes needs to be at societal level.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 Are it's primarily parliament job but court can also create laws by their orders and in those cases where a law doesn't exist like prenup You are hell bent on defending women's and judiciary

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Creating law needs deep and large scale research of the time and society. Judiciary can't do that. So they cannot change law. But definitely these unequal laws will be struck down by judiciary only one day. But the opposite counsel needs to satisfy court that it's the best time.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 Bhai kuch bhi mt bolo phle padhlo even you are nullifying old law and replacing it with new one it itself a law Can't you see it

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 No. They didn't replace new law. They just interpreted that it's natural right and comes under fundamental right.

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 But see it's parliament who has to make law. It's parliament who made hindu marriage Act etc. Now that we are expecting UCC we might see changes in the new laws if men voice themselves good enough.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 And that's why i blamed judiciary at first place Because it all can be solved without even going to court But hey then who will fund the divorce industry in india

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 They didn't make new law. They struck down previous. Which was in their opinion was violation of fundamental right.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 FYI

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 See best option was ' PRENUPS ' In Western countries this concept is there. It means spouses make contract before marriage and decide everything for marriage and what if it doesn't workout. Sharing, money, everything. But IND thinks marriage is holy thing so PRENUPS are illegal.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 Bhai that's the issues na women Alimony le Women Maintenance le Women jab chahe divorce le Men's ka kya???

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Courts can't make laws. Courts can review laws made by parliament and give red or green signal to any new or old legislation. Sometimes courts have made minor laws but it's judicial overreach and isn't given to them by Constitution.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 Courts do make law, yeah, but it's mostly parliament's job Courts can do that too You're still wrong about that, by the way

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Yeah that's true in more than 95% case Or even higher. But remember we can't blame women. We as society who has failed. Our system isn't giving shit about this. Men and women aren't enemies. This problem needs changes at societal level.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 One case And u know why one case because women don't marry poor people infact they don't even marry same earner forget about less earner 🤣

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Yeah because there must be other facts going against him. We don't know the facts of the case. In many cases husbands do not want to give one time settlement so they do drag the cases for years. In some cases women want to negotiate higher so they drag more.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 How both parties ? Man is still.not getting duvorce even after 16 years

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Are you asking right questions??? Yes you are. But it's not courts who decide law. + may be we are looking at urban india. Most india is still rural. Life changes a lot there. May be as a society we aren't there yet. Or may be we can make something in between.

So women will Decide whether she wanna stays with husband or not? What is husband will Decide then ? Continue with the toxic partner? And my question remains the same why should men's pay to women's If she is working then earn Is she isn't then it's not men's fault it's either her fault, her father fault or her luck maybe Men's are doing favor on women by the way then

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Court does take notice of the fact where women are working and are able to maintain themselves. It does not mean in those cases husbands don't have to pay maintenance. It just can be used to negotiate. Also in one case wife was told to give monthly money to her husband.

@hiremath41469 @jyotiTpandey05 So what should be done in those cases where are women are working and earning?

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 See laws don't say you have to pay her 5 years or 10 years. You have to maintain her if she doesn't go to other partner. In this case she is ready to live with husb. It's husb who doesnt want marriage to continue. Also he doesn't have strong reasons like adultery for divorce.

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 Do these laws need modifications. Hell yeah. It's upto the parliament. But they won't as women vote share bura maan jayegi. Still judiciary over the years has changed interpretation of law and tries to interprete law in order to give equal chance to both.

@TraderVenus @jyotiTpandey05 How are we going to conclude anything without knowing facts of the case. See I am not saying women are all innocent. We have to look at the bigger picture. The concept of Marriage needs modifications.

@jyotiTpandey05 @hiremath41469

@TraderVenus What I said is for the entire population. What you are saying applies to some women individually. You aren't wrong there. But if seen on large number it's true that women feel compromised in marriage.

1. If women feel they are compromised in marriage and if they are really empowered and independent then why they beg for Alimony in court just simply take divorce and get separated You don't need to write emails on twitter to understand that in 2026 you can't marry a girl who is earning 1 lakh and you are earning 30k Either you admit that you are not equal to men's or leave the greed of money earn yourself