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Sam 🟣

Sam 🟣

@hlg1973

Katılım Şubat 2012
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@MarinaPurkiss Marina, I always thought better of you. What's with the "... unless it's Kanye West" comment? I don't agree with the ban, but YE wasn't denied a visa because he's an anti-zionist. His behaviour was blatantly antisemitic. For you to conflate the two issues in this way is shameful
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Marina Purkiss
Marina Purkiss@MarinaPurkiss·
100 bombs in 10 minutes… On Beirut A city the size of Heathrow with the population of Manchester And yet our leaders do nothing No meaningful action …unless it’s Kanye West. Brand new Trawl episode on this and more below.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@grahamlducan @MichaelRosenYes @Jamie_Weinstein That's certainly not the view of 2 million Arab Israeli citizens. There's a big difference between how a state treats it's own citizens and how it treats foreigners. That's true of all nations. (Again, that's not an endorsement of Israel's current treatment of non-Israelis).
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Graham Duncan
Graham Duncan@grahamlducan·
@hlg1973 @MichaelRosenYes @Jamie_Weinstein ‘Some pigs are more equal to others’ under current equality. If deemed Jewish enough, you get special status and privileges. Not sure if theft, rape and murder (how the state of Israel was constituted) give special dispensation versus a ‘just and fair’ settlement
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Jamie Weinstein
Jamie Weinstein@Jamie_Weinstein·
Has a single person upset with Israel’s actions in Lebanon explained what Israel should do instead to a terror group continuously firing missiles at it making the North of the country uninhabitable?
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@grahamlducan @MichaelRosenYes @Jamie_Weinstein So your answer is the dismantling of the state of Israel as it is presently constituted; Israelis would argue that's neither just nor fair. Universal sufferage and equality under the law are presently in place for all Israeli citizens. Single state is the sticking point.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@grahamlducan @MichaelRosenYes @Jamie_Weinstein Taking on board your arguments, what would a just and fair settlement look like? Again, its not meant in a provocative way - I'm just interested. Are you advocating for the eradication of the Israeli state? Because Israel would never regard that proposal as either fair or just
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Graham Duncan
Graham Duncan@grahamlducan·
@hlg1973 @MichaelRosenYes @Jamie_Weinstein As someone who knew Lebanon well, both before the civil war and after … The country has been purposely destabilised and polarised by the Zionist project. To ask your question is to forget this. Israel’s actions have consequences, ‘a just and fair settlement’ is the only way.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@MichaelRosenYes @Jamie_Weinstein Not meant provocatively, but what would a just and fair settlement look like when there's Hezbollah involvement? It's difficult to reach any settlement when one party doesn't recognise the other's right to exist. (And this isn't meant as an endorsement of Israel's actions).
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Josh Howie
Josh Howie@joshxhowie·
I have varied opinions about different parts of it and am meant to be on holiday. I’ve posted a lot about him in past. I think he should actually show remorse through his actions before any forgiveness given. I don’t think he should have visa cancelled. I don’t think he should’ve been booked for Wireless in first place. I don’t think he would’ve been booked if it was any other group but Jews. (We did talk about it on FSN on Sunday). I’m waiting for my beer to cool down in freezer and then holiday starts!
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Josh Howie@joshxhowie·
Mohammed was a Zionist.
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Calum Livingstone
Calum Livingstone@Caltonfan·
@LeahRay @AndyCSims Why would it be illegal? This is standard at all stadiums, if you leave the ground you don’t get back in
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Andy Sims@AndyCSims·
West Ham fans who left early aren’t being allowed back in
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@cw2915 @callumcormie @zarahsultana So why make it about Jews? Seriously, can you not make that same point without bringing in policy designed to protect a vulnerable minority?
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CW@cw2915·
@hlg1973 @callumcormie @zarahsultana What's really "not very smart" is thinking "Ye" is the most pressing issue right now when Trump is threatening to end an "entire civilization" with the UK's help. All I ask for is consistency, but so far there has been no outrage over this illegal war! No statements, nothing!
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Zarah Sultana MP
Zarah Sultana MP@zarahsultana·
Glad Keir Starmer's Labour government is prioritising stopping musicians from performing. Wouldn't want them distracted from their complicity in Israel's genocide of the Palestinian people and an illegal war on Iran. What a pathetic excuse of a Prime Minister.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@cw2915 @callumcormie @zarahsultana It's a bizarre claim and not even remotely the same thing. I've made clear that I don't support banning people (inc. Ye). But I've also made clear that we shouldn't make opposition to prejudice conditional on what happens elsewhere in the world- that includes all forms of racism
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CW@cw2915·
@hlg1973 @callumcormie @zarahsultana x.com/linmeitalks/st… Since we're analysing comparisons, did you say anything when this woman was allowed to enter the UK? Imagine if someone called you an Islamophobe because you didn't? See how ridiculous that is? There's nothing wrong with pointing out double standards.
Lin Mei@linmeitalks

When this woman Valentina Gomez was in the U.K. a few weeks ago where was @lbc @Keir_Starmer @MayorofLondon @EdwardJDavey A woman who suggested killing migrants, all Muslims are terrorists and criminals ??

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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@cw2915 @callumcormie @zarahsultana I'm not implying anything; I don't know you well enough to know whether you're an antisemite or not. I'm simply arguing that it's not very smart to take the single instance of Govt action against pure antisemitism and conflate it with arguments in support of anti-zionism
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CW@cw2915·
@hlg1973 @callumcormie @zarahsultana You're aware of all the comparisons I've made lately? What a joke. The things I care about and speak up about and make comparisons about are my choice and based on what the gov I voted for have been up to. Seems like you're implying that I'm an antisemite? Pathetic.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@cw2915 @callumcormie @zarahsultana Have you made the same comparison with any other domestic or international issue dominating the news agenda recently? It's clearly *NOT* a coincidence that you have taken a specific example of a Government taking action on an antisemitic concern as your point of comparison.
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CW@cw2915·
@hlg1973 @callumcormie @zarahsultana I'm making a comparison between how the government has handled those two issues. Where have I conflated the issues? The point is that there are far worse crimes that the government not merely ignores but actively helps Israel and US commit. Where's the same, proportionate energy?
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@DeMalla_85 @zarahsultana The wonders of the internet allow for virtual meetings on platforms such as Zoom and Teams. Things don't just have to be face-to-face these days.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@DeMalla_85 @zarahsultana Great, so I assume that his offer to meet with the British Jewish community is still on the table, even though he won't be performing at Wireless anymore?
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De_Malla
De_Malla@DeMalla_85·
@zarahsultana Funny that they are ok with Maccabi Tel Aviv coming and roaming the streets with their violence. Battled the police calling it antisemitism, but Kanye is where they drew the line, although he apologised and said all the things during a mental health breakdown.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@zarahsultana Although I don't necessarily agree with the ban, your tweet is baffling and politically myopic, Zarah. Ye's behaviour was blatantly antisemitic. He never mentioned Palestine, so you can't claim this was ever about zionism. Your decision to conflate the two speaks volumes.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@cw2915 @callumcormie @zarahsultana I'm not sure that the ban was the correct response, but how is the concern over Ye anything to do with zionism or Israel? Ye's comments were never related to Palestine. This is a clear-cut case of antisemitism, not anti-zionism. Why are you conflating the two issues?
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CW@cw2915·
@callumcormie @zarahsultana The point is that there's 1000x more concern over Ye than over countless war crimes that the government has helped Israel perpetrate. Tens of thousands slaughtered but radio silence from this government. However Ye is a massive issue. Does that seem consistent to you?
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Ben Kentish
Ben Kentish@BenKentish·
“If you were to speak to most of the 30,000+ Orthodox Jews in Stanford Hill, they would probably say they would welcome the opportunity to meet with Kanye West.” How many of them did you ask before stating this on national television, @samuelkasumu?
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@dovidmargolin Come on now. Don't tell me that you don't have a hankering for kitniyot right about now.
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Sam 🟣@hlg1973·
@Malk__1407 @FeedTechILUncen @SpursOfficial Mate, I no longer wish to discuss this. You’ve taken offence against an innocent post about a Jewish holiday. That’s not anti-Zionism. Asking anyone who is discussing faith to denounce a country for which they bear no responsibility *IS* antisemitic. Read the IHRA definition.
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عبدالملك 🇴🇲
عبدالملك 🇴🇲@Malk__1407·
@hlg1973 @FeedTechILUncen @SpursOfficial It would have been enough for you to say you were against Israel.We would have quickly agreed.But you chose to use their argument (anti-Semitism), and that's why I objected.There's no disagreement between us as long as you consider Israel a criminal state that must be eliminated.
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Tottenham Hotspur
Tottenham Hotspur@SpursOfficial·
Happy Passover to all our fans celebrating! Chag Sameach 🤍
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