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Ironist Rorty stan: https://t.co/Dqd1V4o3SZ Careers: SW Eng, Lawyer, IT Analyst, Prod Mgmt Design Thinker Mastodon: ironick17 Bluesky: ironick

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Gall's Law of Problem Conservation: Problems cannot be created or destroyed; only reframed and reranked. The law isn’t pessimistic—it’s liberating: Stop chasing a problem-free life and start curating a portfolio of inspiring problems worth grappling with. ironick.medium.com/galls-law-of-p…

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Rorty QOTD@RortyQuotes·23h

I recognize, of course, that domination-free communication is only a regulative ideal, never to be attained in practice. But unless a regulative ideal makes a difference to practice, it is not good for much. PasAA p.80 #Pragmatism #Rorty #RegulativeIdeal

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes Actually, the term "mammalian pain" is Brandom's, not Rorty's. Rorty is quoting Brandon in the passage I tweeted.

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·19h

@ironick @RortyQuotes Definitely. I always thought of him as a Humanist. That is why 'Mammalian' seemed so odd.R is very careful with his choice of words. I was not sure why the change in vocabulary.

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Rorty QOTD@RortyQuotes·2d

Fundamentalist parents think that the “liberal Establishment” is engaged in a conspiracy. Had they read Habermas, they would say that the typical communication situation in American college classrooms is no more domination free than that in the Hitler Youth camps. PasAA p.78

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes Given Rorty's ethnocentrism, arguably he'd choose the child over the dog.

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·22h

@ironick @RortyQuotes It's the provocative part that is imp. LifeBoaT. Last small spot: child or dog?

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes I interpret Rorty saying "mammalian pain" as just a more interesting and provocative way of saying "biological pain" or "physical pain".

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·23h

@ironick @RortyQuotes He uses the term "Mammalian" Pain at the end of a paragraph. I wrote a comment. I don't know if I hit reply. I will repost it. It made me laugh. Is this for his audience? Animal Friendly Utilitarians? Derrida has animal ethical comments. Not a problem. "Pain" If he were alive?

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes Your reply on the OP was successfully posted.

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@tomhyde_ I think you may have excluded the middle without justification. I'm an atheist who believes that all that is good (worthy) is partially my own and partially my culture's. And inspiration is the mechanism of transmission of the good across generations. x.com/i/status/18596…

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A series of papers on the psychology of inspiration by Thrash et al that are transforming my nascent philosophy of Fruitionism. (I'm almost tempted to rename it Intuitionism!) 'The creation and curation of all things worthy: Inspiration as vital force in persons and cultures'

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Tom Hyde@tomhyde_·1d

Perhaps the greatest way in which atheism strengthens one’s humanism is is in our view of the religious: to the believer, all that is good in oneself is exogenous; to the non-believer, all that is good in oneself is one’s own. The goodness of priests is not the goodness of God. It is the goodness of people.

lizzz@izzakaya_

this film feels like an atheist’s love letter to religion

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I have two books I've long dreamed of adapting to the screen: 'Stranger in a Strange Land' 'A Canticle for Liebowitz' (Opening scene: a desert flyover to the CSNY song 'Wooden Ships'; closing song Neil Young's 'After the Gold Rush') en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stranger_… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticl…

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Paul Krause@paul_jkrause·2d

A Canticle for Leibowitz is one of the best science fiction books of the past century.

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@ikesharpless 'A Canticle for Liebowitz' is one of my favorite SF books. It, along with 'Last and First Men: A Story of the Near and Far Future', had a huge impact on my intellectual and inspirational engagement with visions of deep futures. I'd love to hear your reaction when you finish it.

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Karl Popper Quotes@QuotePopper·1d

"The history of all human ideas is a history of irresponsible dreams, of obstinacy and of error." — Karl Popper, "The Open Society and Its Enemies."

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes See also Rorty's paean to the Conversation perpetually framing new claims and new purposes. x.com/i/status/19953…

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@jscottwagner @luscofusch I agree that Rorty doesn't Explicitly discuss inspiration in an extended way anywhere in his work. But I think his explicit declaration of "the point of human life" deserves to be interpreted as a description of what he felt was most inspiring: "to make and understand an

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes For Rorty and for me, the goal is not to find something interesting (though that is indeed a benefit) but to send the Conversation of Humanity in new directions. x.com/i/status/14860…

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@SusanNotess Rorty thought it was nothing more than to "send the conversation off in new directions". "[Edifying philosophy] falls into self-deception whenever it tries to do more than send the conversation off in new directions. Such new directions may, perhaps, engender new normal

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes So Rorty would be delighted that you and I describe (interpret) him in different ways! The goal is fruitful (dis)agreement.

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·1d

@ironick @RortyQuotes That sounds like Rorty. Redescriptions of Anything. That includes metaphysical concepts. He is not going total Humean. "Commit it to the flames". He is Literary and pragmatic about using them.

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes x.com/ironick/status…

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@BasqPhilosopher "I can sum up what I'm saying..by redescribing what..the revolutionaries & poets of 2 C ago were getting at. What was glimpsed at the end of the 18th C was that anything could be made to look good or bad, important or unimportant, useful or useless, by being redescribed." Rorty

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·1d

@ironick @RortyQuotes You may read Rorty any way you want.

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Rorty QOTD@RortyQuotes·1d

I don’t see anything domination free about my handling of my fundamentalist students. I think those students are lucky to find themselves under the domination of people like me, and to have escaped from that of their rather frightening and dangerous parents. PasAA p.80 #Education

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@RumanaRichard @RortyQuotes The essay in which this appears is ALSO the opening essay of the collection entitled "Rorty and his Critics", so it seems difficult to shrug this off as a jk.

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·2d

@RortyQuotes Read the next sentence. "These parents have a point" "Fundamental Parents" "Fundamental Students" This is broad humor to make a point. He varies his writing style to his audience. [Would not find in his Phil Papers].

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Contingently i-RON-ick@ironick·3d

"Congratulations! At last you've found out."

Jake Orthwein@JakeOrthwein

alan watts on the cosmic drama and the problem of evil

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Rorty QOTD@RortyQuotes·3d

You cannot have any language, or any beliefs, without being in touch with both a human community and non-human reality. There is no possibility of agreement without truth, nor of truth without agreement. PasAA p.70 #Pragmatism #Rorty #Truth

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@RumanaRichard I KNEW I should have put a smiley emoji after the exclamation point! 😅 Sorry that I came across as unfriendly. That's not at all my intent. I understand if you choose to disengage.

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·3d

@ironick This does not seem to be a friendly conversation, so I will end my participation here.

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·3d

RORTY: If a 1 word category is need, his own word Ironist is best.But Ironic Pragmatism would make no sense.Irony is a virtue of a leisured, money, educated class.Pragmatism is the working class.However, R words as tools and ways of using them is pragmatic behavior.

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@RumanaRichard That's the question I am asking of you!

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·3d

@ironick Higher education, University or above, is not something that is useful or necessary for working class. So how "un" is uneducated for the working class?

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@RumanaRichard You seem to contrast the "working class" and the "leisured, money, educated class". So let me restate my question as, "Given your contrast between the two classes, are you suggesting that the working class is uneducated?"

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Richard Rumana@RumanaRichard·3d

@ironick Language is an issue. Pragmatism is a theory. Virtue is a moral quality. What question are you asking?

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