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@SurenVynn While I can agree with the most of it, but "IF" that assimilation rigidly being enforced by the law/constitution, it’s no longer natural sociology. It’s state-mandated ethnonationalism.

The current Malay debate raging on in Indonesia-Malaysia-Singapore-Brunei twitter reminds me of why religious identity is so successful in assimilating disparate ethnic groups while an ethnic one always meets resistance.

@Timobros @Kkfauzi Does this also means there will be another 'Hollywood' project after that short-break period? 👀

The Beekeeper 2 has been quite a gargantuan task, we all have skyhigh ambition with this one. Its crazy to think I’ve been working nonstop since 2024. So I decided to take a short break from hollywood projects for the rest of 2026 & a tiny chunk of 2027 to focus on making another Indonesian project. I do miss scorching hot sets, greasy catering & plastic director stools.

@iPopHQ And now Achmad Albar is the only remaining original member in the band since the very day it was formed. Rest in power to Donny Fattah who passed earlier this year.

53 years years ago today, God Bless was formed.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Simply, there's a reason Italians also don't recognize Chicago/Deep-dish pizza as 'Italian cuisine' or part of Italian culture, because it's distinctively American. Nor Indonesia will recognize Javanese-Suriname cultural products because they're evolving the culture on their own.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx —on exact, 'unevolved Javanese cultural products' that isn't distinct from the origin (this matters). That isn't natural assimilation, that is administrative appropriation. You didn't evolve it, you just legally rebranded the people who brought it.

Peranakan Chinese in SG is also Chinese + Malay only. While in Indonesia Peranakan Chinese/Tionghua is Chinese + any indigenous indonesian ethnic group (Javanese/Sundanese/Betawi etc).

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx You literally just admitted that your logic only works inside your manufactured 'domestic box.' when we're trying to see the bigger picture using international context. If your framework shatters with that, it just means you're not decolonized, you're in a colonial echo-chamber.

@irvxan @DynandLatief @ax10zx no... it's bc im aware that my idea only fits my "domestic box" that's why i want u OUT of my box... why do yall indonesians love to assert ur idea of demographic on Msia n Sg? we have decided that any ethnics that integrated with malays and wanted to be known as malays

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx You want me to stay in your 'domestic box' because that's the only place your argument works. True decolonization isn't afraid of international context, Suriname is a very example. It's about the sovereignty of a civilization, not the administrative convenience of a state.

@irvxan @DynandLatief @ax10zx u see... the problem with u is 1) u refuse to take in my words 2) u have no idea how Malaysia's constitution works 3) you're a hypocrite

@solisolsoli Same.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Organic evolution and administrative overwrite are not the same. Javanese, Sundanese, etc. (even also Melayu) melted into one being Betawi is another case of natural evolution of assimilation, no one has a problem with that because there's no legal framework that interfered.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx It became problem when the state basically sponsoring cultural amnesia using the legal framework. Then you see a lot of supremacists narrative as results of that 'cultural amnesia', and absorbing people's distinct heritages into a civilization they've never been a part of.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Look at Suriname-Javanese in South America, they crossed the globe and still retained their sovereign identity without the state forcing them into a 'legal cage' to exist. Their culture are still preserved and evolving on their own. Let's not defend systemic cultural amnesia.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Calling Javanese and Bugis 'immigrants' is not it when your state deliberately absorbed them and erased their ancestry just to artificially inflate its 'pribumi' demographic majority. This is why protecting distinct identities matters, ancestry is a civilizational birthright.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Hence why legally invisible if you still needed to be filtered into the monolith in the process. Civic and ancestry identities are not the same, one makes us legally relevant or not. Once again the legal framework is the part that get problematic.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Biological records and constitutional power are not the same, though. Sure, a birth certificate might say 'Keturunan Jawa', but under Article 160 (enacted 1957), that very 'Jawa' has no distinct sovereign standing for Peninsula Bumiputera rights, are they?

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx —and not branches of 'ancient Malay kingdoms.' Claiming sovereign Javanese and Bugis civilizations as were just 'absorbed' as parts of ancient Malay kingdoms is historically revisionism, that's again the problematic part.

@NnOby72757 @DynandLatief @ax10zx Article 160 effectively forces assimilation by omission, making 'Malay' the only legal avenue for rights in the Peninsula. That omission is the coercion. And Majapahit, or the Bugis were sovereign and distinct Nusantara civilizations ethnolonguistically—