@TommyToledoFGC Guard cancels but the most most boring is when they're safe on block (v reversals are so wack lmao)
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Ividboy
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Is there any mechanic less interesting than parries in fighting games
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It's simple. Smash has to ban everything to make it a viable fighting game. No items, special rules, limited stages, no supers, etc.
I dont really care either way, but thats we have terms like -platform fighter- and -arena fighter-. Or you can just say party game LOL
As for hating it? The community kinda sucks I guess would be the simple answer. But this comes after melee. The main core fgc likes melee. Everything after, yea.......
KobeManX8@KobeManX8
Ok, so, I have a quick question to the FGC. Why doesn't anyone think Super Smash bros is a fighting game or just hate it in general? Because I'm very curious about it and I enjoy Both Fighting games and Smash bros.
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this is fine for handling the physical aspects, but i just wanted to add onto this that the biggest element of writing smut imo is the emotional part, and usually when a smut scene doesn't land, it's not because of the logistics of the movement or the sensory detail, but because
⭒˚⋆glassy! ⋆✩ 🪫@glass_gear
my biggest tip for writing smut is establish the action happening. then, rotate thru all 5 senses: how does it feel, how do they look, how do they sound, how do they taste (kissing), and how do they smell (perfume/if applicable) break paragraph for dialogue or action repeat
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@FE_Red_Dragoon Lowkey this a cognitohazard because it feels better when you dont know about 2RN
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And that's why FE started using 2RN and not showing you the actual hit rates. It lies to you, but it's a lie the player wants to see because accurate math doesn't really align with how people perceive these chances
Eight Eyed Eel@8EyedEel
A lot of people seem to think hit chance in the 95% - 75% range should be a guaranteed hit and feel cheated when they miss
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd I think the items contention is resolved when you realize that "party game" is not a genre but a design philosophy (Mario party is a board game, Mario kart is a racing game)
So smash is a fighting game with party game stuff added in
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@ividboy @WeegeeThe3rd Items have always been a massive point of contention simply bc it adds an extra element of RPS/randomness to the mental stack. I'm sure this game has depth that I just don't know about but the outside factor of the ball makes it seem a little... weird to me I guess.
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I remember seeing one dude say smash bros is a party game people pretend is a fighting game and i gotta say THE DUDE WAS RIGHT
YAZ ★@LE0NH4RT
SMASH IS A FIGHTING GAME, IT SHOULD FEATURE IMPORTANT FG CHARACTERS
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@XLandedIt @Lunafaneia So its an earlier balancing adjustment fucking thing up unintentionally 🫤
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@ividboy @Lunafaneia the burst gain on wallstick was added to combat wallslumps that were primarily abused heavily by HC, and more situationally by I-no, but now that wallslump just doesnt exist anymore theres literally no reason for it to exist
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@XLandedIt @Lunafaneia Wait why would they do that I thought they already killed wallslump setups by always letting you tech out as if you got air wall stuck
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@Lunafaneia Wallstick burst was literally only put into place to stop wallslumps though, and resetting over and over the avoid it isn’t feasible for a lot of the cast
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd I genuinely think there are vast swathes of unexplored design space in this genre partially enforced by the kind of people that called smash "not a fighting game" because even though it has way more of the aspects youre familiar with, it controlled kinda weird and has items
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd There's up close RPS where you can swing on a ball as its about to release to catch it without having to guess the angle, but the opponent can parry (blue bubble) to freeze you for doing that, but then you can grab the parried ball and hit them for free but grab loses to no parry
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd No you cannot win by not interacting with the ball, are you trying to say its not a fighting game unless youre reducing their lifebar to 0 with specifically punching and kicking?
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@ividboy @WeegeeThe3rd Counter point: can you win by not interacting with the ball?
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd Most fighting games are "kill the other guy with punches and kicks" this one is just "kill the other guy with ball" how is this so hard to understand
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd Yes obviously you have to hit the ball but I want you to tell me how you win at a game of Lethal League without making your opponent get hit by the ball (winning being the objective of the game presumably)
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@OG_Zig_Zag @WeegeeThe3rd What no its not you have to hit the other person with the ball and how they move around effects how you have to angle and juggle the ball to try to hit them
You can hit the ball by your lonesome all you want and it does nothing unless you hit the other guy with it
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@ividboy @WeegeeThe3rd Bc the objective is "hit the ball". You could remove the health bars and just have the point system and the game fundamentally would be no different.
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@SaneDrane One side acknowledges the role of comparing character abilities in fight heavy series and the other side just really fucking hates powerscaler youtubers
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The hilarious part is actual powerscalers take hax abilities under consideration. Y'all are just upset powerscaling is more intellectual than you thought.
✨Amelia✨@amelia_squealia
Powerscalers see stories of mothers lifting up cars to save their babies and question how it's possible for their husbands go abuse them
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@zac_raf @Mr_Twodeedoo It took 4 whole smash games for them to finally have a protag they can shove the rest of the weapon triangle on to when yall could have just put Frederick into the game, ya dummies
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@zac_raf @Mr_Twodeedoo The core problem with fire emblem's representation in smash is that the coolest and most interesting fire emblem characters have NEVER been the lords
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the problem with fire emblem isnt that theres 8 of them
its that ALL of them are swords and MOST of them are identical
would be no issue if there were bows or axes or lances or whatnots
👑Dot🐝@DotPeriodFlower
I hate when people act like Fire Emblem is over-represented in Smash It’s a first party franchise & it has one of the largest collections of characters from a gaming franchise ever, & it’s still actively growing to this day FE deserves every spot it gets, & could use a few more
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