jakhep 🌙
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@jakhep @Shadowerz2006 I mean there’s a new seven member
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@jakhep @DonkGabriel @HakureiRyan Going to someone's profile to try and shame them just because they read an argument on X and said you lost is stalking.
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@darkage_theDon @HakureiRyan Alright I can actually see your point. I guess I concede on this particular topic.
Thank you for actually providing valid points.
I still believe religion is a net negative on society though. Like there’s good things that came from it (duh) but also a lot more bad.
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@jakhep @HakureiRyan So it is actually is directly responsible and attributable to Christianity.
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@sashimi97_ @HakureiRyan The religion I’m meaning in this context is modern religion, not the ones that have died off. But I understand the confusion.
That’s my mistake.
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@HakureiRyan @jakhep The healing temples were created by polytheists as well, Hellenic Polytheism, which comes under religion.
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@ninjaofscarves @DonkGabriel @HakureiRyan Ain’t stalking if it’s public. But hey atleast you own it. Respect.
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@DonkGabriel @jakhep @HakureiRyan Check Kira's account out. Great art
Also, cyberstalking people is weird and desperate, @jakhep just take the L
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@darkage_theDon @HakureiRyan A person that happens to be Christian making a scientific discovery doesn’t mean it is a direct result of Christianity.
They would’ve made that discovery anyway.
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@darkage_theDon @HakureiRyan That’s simply not true. The Roman Catholic Church prosecuted Galileo Galilei for promoting heliocentrism which is the idea that the Earth revolves around the Sun.
That’s just one example.
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@jakhep @HakureiRyan Scientific revolution and Universities can be attributed to Christianity as well.
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@HakureiRyan Declaring yourself the winner because you ran out of arguments isn't a counter-point. But thanks for the debate nonetheless. Have a good rest of your day.
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@jakhep Nope, you don't get to weasel out of the monkey's paw here. Delete Christianity = Delete hospitals, period, end of story, no counter-argument possible.
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@HakureiRyan The Greeks paved the way for clinical medicine. The Catholics built a hospital system on top of that foundation centuries later. If you remove Christianity, the Greek foundations don't vanish. Another human society would have just built a hospital system on top of it instead.
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@jakhep If this was true, then Greeks, not Catholics, would have invented the hospital. Sorry that I am not letting you weasel your way out of the consequences of removing Christianity. :(
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@HakureiRyan But I’m not saying Greeks invented the hospital.
Again my original point was that if Catholics didn’t exist another group would have invented the idea instead based on what has already existed prior. You’ve lost what the original point of contention was.
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You don't get to play whatabouts; Catholics invented hospitals and Tim Berners-Lee invented the Web (which is not the same as the Internet, which the US invented). You don't get to claim the invention of something based on a potential precursor. The only argument in which your points would have any merit is if I claimed Christians invented healthcare, which I did not, of course there were medicine men and the like before hospitals, it does not mean those medicine men invented the hospital.
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@HakureiRyan Well your original point was that hospitals wouldn’t exist without Catholics. I proved that they eventually would because a precursor already existed.
If Tim Berners-Lee didn’t invent the World Wide Web someone else 100% would have based on the precursor that is the internet.
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@jakhep Damn so I guess you accept that the United States invented the World Wide Web since we invented the precursors to it? Or do you suddenly play by a different set of rules in such a case?
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@HakureiRyan Asclepieia: ancient Greek healing sanctuaries and the earliest precursors to holistic hospitals. over 300 of these centers operated throughout the Mediterranean. They functioned as early forms of medical tourism by treating both the body and the mind.
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@jakhep No they were not, if they were then hospitals would have been invented then, and not by the Catholics. You're in checkmate.
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@HakureiRyan Well no. They were exactly like hospitals really. Also you realise technology advances right? Just because primal treatments looked like that then doesn’t mean they’d be exactly the same now. That’s just absurd logic.
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@jakhep "Healing temple" and it wasn't healthcare nor anything close to a hospital. That's why it's getting ignored, it's irrelevant and you're uncomfortable that I am not allowing you to derail.
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@HakureiRyan You’ve completely avoided my Ancient Greek healing temple point. Would you care to touch on that at all?
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@jakhep Your "primal medicine" sir. Sorry, but no matter how much you cope you can't get out of this checkmate. If you delete Christianity, you must necessarily delete hospitals, period, end of story, no counter-argument possible.

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