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@LassiKangz @WaqasQadar @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @NidaAhm16105291 I didn't call you locust I was using "a locust like population" as a demographic scale to describe numbers, something very commonly used in writings.. You are right in your second part...pre industrialization era was a different time, now the same rules don't apply/work...

@WaqasQadar @jason101025 @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @NidaAhm16105291 Crazy he called us locust🤣 Its not worth it man But these people were better fighters pre industrialization Same way the ottomans could push into Europe but with modernization of weaponry, they completely fell behind the Europeans and were eventually broken up Won’t work now

غیر فطری تقسیم ہند کا سب سے زیادہ خمیازہ پنجابیوں نے بھگتا ہے، 1947ء میں بچھڑے دو خاندانوں کا 74 سال بعد کرتارپور میں ملن۔ ان سرحدوں کے دکھ بھی کیسے عجیب دکھ ہیں۔ کتنی ہی نسلیں ان جدائیوں کو سہتے سہتے دنیا سے چلی گیئں۔۔ 💔💔😥😥

@WaqasQadar @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @LassiKangz @NidaAhm16105291 You are right but every conquest needed some kind of motivation...no one fought wars for the fun of the game...

@jason101025 @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @LassiKangz @NidaAhm16105291 Large populations living on arable land hardly made pushes to expand further in past like China, India, Punjab instead it were Mongols, Afghans or say Baloch towards east. Locals remained complacent or unmotivated while for attackers it was do or die.

Imagine having these perverts as your neighbours... disgusting

@WaqasQadar @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @LassiKangz @NidaAhm16105291 It was a big deal because we didn't have a locust like population to conquer/manage larger areas unlike punjabis or indians so of course we wouldn't have big empires or controlled big countries....when balochs took over sindh, their army was 6-9k and the enemies were 30k...

@jason101025 @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @LassiKangz @NidaAhm16105291 Talpur dynasty period commenced after defeating local Sindhi Kalhora symasyin 1783, lasted till 1843 in some form. Below is its map in 1823, annexing a tiny part of any province isn’t a big deal. It was just a Sindhi based

@WaqasQadar @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @LassiKangz @NidaAhm16105291 And that's the reason why balochs hold most of the lands in Sindh, even after losing to British empire, they kept their lands and still keep them to this day....

@WaqasQadar @rindraider @rana_of_rahon @LassiKangz @NidaAhm16105291 Before the British came here, Sindh, south Punjab, Indian Gujrat, Rajhastan and Eastern Balochistan were under the Baloch rulers...you seem to know very little, these all forts were built by Baloch rulers in present day Sindh...

@Jap2434x2p @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 Yes...we have some chachars as well...solangis..maachis...muhanas...then there are punjabis, arain, khokhar, rana etcetera....and yes, sindhis plot next to most seraiki speakers

@jason101025 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 TBH I think that's the case for most of Saraiki belt, almost all tribes that speak Saraiki also have a presence in Sindh like Chachhar,Maachi,Khuahwar,etc & look alot like Sindhis phenotypically, & ofc Saraiki samples seem to be identical to Sindhi ones for the most part.

@Chadmemon That's what I'm saying....sindhi sammat are aboriginals of sindh.... basically an ethnic group separate from lohanas if we look at them autosomally...

@Jap2434x2p @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 True, my tribal belt has most amount of maachis in southern punjab, they look the same as ethnic sindhis from sindh...

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 @jason101025 In Saraiki belt ofc tribes related to Sindhis like Korejas,Khuahwars,Maachis,etc will score like Sindhis as that's their ethnic identity not Punjabi...Punjabi tribes like Sials,Kharrals,etc will score closer to most high caste Pakjabis though I think.

@Jap2434x2p @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 I searched everywhere & this is what i could get...

@jason101025 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 Kutchi Jat it was.

@Randomguy48234 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 I highly doubt that... I've looked up samples from gujrat, what are they known as? Gujrati Lohana muslim/hindu or kutchi??? Because there aren't any samples under kutchi name.... All those samples showed 25%+ AASI

@jason101025 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 I had one with 17% which I found online, but I'm not fully sure if it's legit.

@Randomguy48234 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 Can you show samples from kutchi gujrat?

@jason101025 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 I'm talking about Kutchi Sindhis from Kutch in Gujarat bro, they can sometimes have very low AASI.

@Randomguy48234 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 "very low" How low???? Lower 20s??? Because there's no way they would score extremely low

@Randomguy48234 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 Nah, they are also from sindh... second largest number of balochs live in sindh after Balochistan...then small amount in southern punjab....so its likely that sindhi sammats have mixed with balochs...even one of their nationalist here is half baloch...

@jason101025 @Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 Tbh those with that level of zagros and that low Aasi are mostly from Kacchi/Bela which already means they're less or more mixed with Baloch,or they've some Baloch/Pashtun ancestry normally,though surprisingly some kutchi Sindhis also have <20 AASI who live in India.

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 In the same way, many baloch looking sindhi sammats are mixed with balochs in sindh, similar to those in lasbela Balochistan...

@jason101025 @talhaahmad127 Yes I know he is mixed lol I said it.

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 No I'm not...i know farmer is different from zagros

@jason101025 @talhaahmad127 Your confusing farmer with zargos?

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 See??? The doubling of ANF and also higher zagros, This guy is most likely mixed with baloch... x.com/i/status/20494…

@jason101025 @talhaahmad127 This is his he is labelled thaheem wrongfully Palaris of kohistan are sammas

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 I've seen 29%...also another evidence is the doubling of ANF, those sindhis with 58-60% zagros and 19-20% aasi also show 12-13% ANF...ethnic unmixed sindhis can go as high as 49-50, but anything above is a mixture... sindhi memons have higher steppe and lower zagros

@jason101025 @talhaahmad127 Yes palari scored in 50% zargos He is mixed your right. I haven't seen 30% tbf 28% is the most high

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 We will look at the neighbouring populations...also, if a sindhi is mixed with baloch, he would naturally score higher zagros and lower aasi... wouldn't that be the case????

@jason101025 @talhaahmad127 How do they??how do you know? And they are no5 mixed as I said earlier Your generally basing all these assumptions based on their samples.

@Chadmemon @talhaahmad127 I'm not saying all of them do, sindhis sammats can score as low as 22-24 and as high as 30...but those with 60% zagros and 17-18% aasi are most definitely mixed ones...what do you think?????

@jason101025 @talhaahmad127 Lol again that's your assumptions Baloch mixed.will make zargos 50% like the palari sample not like those.