@FRVRTC_@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy Both the founding fathers and Abraham Lincoln/Republican Party were, for the most part, the radical liberals of their day. Rachel proved nothing. There is no fixed definition of liberal or conservative that she can revoke someone else's Conservative membership.
In honor of my debate victory tonight, enjoy feminist pioneer Elizabeth Cady Stanton, throwing a temper tantrum about how the intelligent, educated women of her time wanted nothing to do with feminism. (they knew it was retarded.)
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy You should look up a famous quote by Mark Twain in regards to arguing with people. The quote keeps relaying in my mind during our back and forth.
@Professor_Rev@Rach4Patriarchy Yes, in the states I mentioned. Not all states had slavery . State constitutions would be original source information. Or you could find state bills that had the right repealed by later generations.
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy Correct and could the black slaves vote at this time? The 3/5 compromise was done to use them as part of the population for congressional seats, even though they were still treated as slaves. Slaves that couldn’t vote. This nation was founded on limited suffrage. Dork.
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy Everything. The nation was founded on limited suffrage. Only rich white land owners could vote in the beginning. It wasn’t until later that they did the 3/5 and then 19th amendment. How dumb are you, Jay?
@Professor_Rev@Rach4Patriarchy Yes , i have heard of it. What does it have to do with individuals vote? New Jersey , Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts,
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy She isn’t arguing for Roman civil law—she bases her views on biblical principles, not ancient legal systems. Saying America is “corrupted” by Roman law misunderstands her point about moral, not legal, decline.
Also there is no such thing as a “natural rights” you moron.
@FRVRTC_@Rach4Patriarchy Those principles have the same foundation of the ancient law. Natural Rights dont exist? Lol, you need to study our founding documents and our founders writings more.
@FRVRTC_@Rach4Patriarchy Life, liberty, property, happiness natural rights, self government of consent. These are the American values. She basically arguing for old roman civil law. Which we have grown closer to, as things have been corrupted. Not the traditional American common law.
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy Freedom of religion doesn’t mean a value-neutral state—it just hides which values are being enforced. Rachel’s point is that every society runs on a moral framework, and pretending otherwise just replaces one with another without admitting it.
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy Wrong. basic founding principles were to not have complete suffrage. They didn’t want everyone to have the right to vote. That’s why it was amended later in history which as Rachel pointed out was the downfall of western society. Dolt
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy Okay let me break this down for you since you’re clearly too incompetent to understand. The Draino chick or whatever the fuck her name was said THE LAWS OF LOGIC DON’t EXIST.
@FRVRTC_@Rach4Patriarchy I never said any thing about existence . Natural rights still excist without force. Our shared moral foundation is freedom of religion and our Republic. Not Christian Nationalism and a Monarchy. She can go back to England with that crap.
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy No, she said they didn’t EXIST you fucking idiot.
Rachel is not rejecting America she’s rejecting modern distortions of it. Rights only exist when enforced, and unchecked democracy breeds chaos. Order, hierarchy, & shared moral foundations are what actually sustain a nation.
@FRVRTC_@Rach4Patriarchy Lol, she obviously didn't know what they are.
NATURAL rights granted by men? Christian Nationalism Monarchy? Equality not an American value? But she still won right?
@jay26546307@Rach4Patriarchy She didn’t say she didn’t remember them. She asserted that they don’t EXIST 😂
That’s the problem with the morons who think she “won” this debate. They make up things she never said or mischaracterize Rachel’s positions.