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@ElevatedSpeaks Insane that this game still doesn't have agent bans in 2026

VCL North America giving us a sneak peek at the post patch meta. Yoru currently at 0% pick rate. Obviously influenced by what maps have been played so far. Quick thoughts... Skye = overrated. Yoru, Astra, Sova all should be played more. Vyse will climb. Where are Chamber/Veto??

@codyvalo if I'm getting ran down on B and my Miks is lining up a heal on triple instead of rotating and smoking, I'm crashing out

SUPER OP GOD MIKS HEALING LINEUP B -> A A -> B P.S I find it funny you can do healing lineups now

@Sonic_Guy_14 @salmoona_ Basically my point is that something can FEEL overpowered even if it actually is not. The data does matter

@Sonic_Guy_14 @salmoona_ I agree, but its more complicated than that. For example C&D is banned often because she gets the most value for the least effort, her ult is very strong and annoying to play against, and divers dont like to deal with her. This can all be true even if C&D isn't objectively strong

if you still think win rate is a good indicator of character strength in the big 7.0 you're beyond lost and not worth arguing with

@Micha86907124 @salmoona_ I agree that both together is more valuable than only winrate

@jeffdays_ @salmoona_ pickrate + winrate.

@Ser_Garrett @salmoona_ Yes thats a good point and helps to show that you can't ONLY look at win rate. But win rate is still significant

@jeffdays_ @salmoona_ Most commonly it’s explained that the meta characters are picked more often, meaning they’re used by people who suck at the game as well as people who are great Meanwhile the less meta heroes are often only played by high-skill players devoted to making them work

@Sonic_Guy_14 @salmoona_ or maybe ultron is actually more valuable than you think. the data suggests that ultron is strong. you just believe him to be weak because he isn't a traditional support

@jeffdays_ @salmoona_ Cause Ultron had the highest winrate of all supports last season. Same way Peni had the highest winrate of all vanguards. Yet Ultron is far from Broken, and Peni only runs low elo lobbies and sees next to no play in the higher ranks. Winrate means fuck all.

@Silvertrap23 @salmoona_ in a mirror match, the winrate is unaffected. because 1 wins and 1 loses, they negate each other

@jeffdays_ @salmoona_ You have to consider pick rates as well. Cnd has a 25% pick rate, so her winrate goes down due to worse players and mirror matches

@glorp__p its also cringe in comp

Soo where can i practice oping if it’s cringe to do it in dm and tdm and skirmish and swiftplay and unrated

@twtKujo @saml0n @derpchud yeah when the game was good and people actually cared lol

@saml0n @derpchud 7 years ago or some

i’m supposed to believe a game that let moxy touch rank 1 in 2026 is competing with overwatch

@ToomieMGG it's between both but more blue leaning

I’m not willing to die on many hills but this color is NOT BLUE! IT’S GREEN

@SteveIsQuiteBig @OphoneTruly @kqzfps Elsa is very overtuned, but Phoenix has not been broken at all since they took away melee sparks

@jeffdays_ @OphoneTruly @kqzfps I agree that some of the "dive is bad" sentiment is largely an issue with dumbass teammates never helping divers, but heroes like Elsa and Phoenix are ungodly broken and not that difficult to get any meaningful value on imo

The simple truth that seems too hard to digest for melee players is that melee is meant to be accessible not competitive. The reason why not play gun is because gun is too hard to use for most people. As hard as that might be to understand for melee players. The reason why hitscan and aim centric heroes will always be strong in the competitive side of the game is because they're balancing for the future of the game. If they balance the game in order to make melees as strong then in a year or two you will have about 5000 Jimmy Neutrons running around playing melee only having guaranteed damage insane movement without ever having to aim in eternity+ There will be no difference in skill between melee players as the game ages, the ceiling is capped. Aim will always have an infinite skill ceiling and will always be valued more. The only truly skilled melee hero currently is Spider-Man. Daredevil is over-tuned garbage. Fun hero design and very cool creative gameplay, doesn't change the fact that it's straight up complete bullshit to play against when versing a good one. And currently it's scarce to find a good Daredevil player, but as time goes on there will be more and more, because as I mentioned the skill ceiling for melee is capped. You don't want that as a game that is pushing for an e-sport scene.

@callmehenni Bucky hasn't been above B tier in ages btw

7 seasons for this nerf is questionable and laughable🤣

@SteveIsQuiteBig @OphoneTruly @kqzfps my other issue is that dive players like to pretend that dive is bad, when it's actually strong x.com/i/status/20343…

@SteveIsQuiteBig @OphoneTruly @kqzfps I don't think dive is easy. I just don't think most dive players understand that they need to be counterable for the game to be healthy I've also realized that most dive players have never filled a game of support in their lives and had to deal with how obnoxious dive is

@IsOryx @bready_ow did you know that if you don't stand still out in the open without cover, then this will almost never actually happen to you?

@bready_ow Do seriously believe a comp that needs the entire team to be coordinated is somehow better than being able to sit in the back of the map and 2 tap everyone

Dive players when I choose to shoot my gun in the hero SHOOTER instead of complaining about how I can’t insta kill an invisible woman with a singular uncoordinated solo dive

Its just so funny how these dive players think hitscan is this all powerful role and then dive is just meta every time

@Sovietico_Puto @kqzfps Call of duty is played with a controller and aim assist and has a very minimal skill floor/ceiling compared to games like CS/Val with Kbm. Very disingenuous example

@kqzfps If gun was too hard to use cod wouldnt have been the most popular franchise for two consecutive decades in online gaming. Just admit you want your characters to be the most broken because you think you're better than other ppl. We all know you think that, just be honest.

@OphoneTruly @kqzfps Poke heroes also have the same game sense and decision making aspects btw Unless you just sit afk in main

@kqzfps The difficulty of most melee heroes is pretty much the same as the difficulty of poke heroes. The difficulty in melee comes from game sense and decision making aspects that poke heroes just don't have to worry about. Still a high skill ceiling for melee, and they should be viable