@SaveMeeJeebus @A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera If we didn't value the lives of others, we wouldn't be trying to talk you out of the suicide option with explanations of why you should pick red and live.
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Jeremy Farmer
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Jeremy Farmer
@jerfarhomer
God's bouncy ball. A weird brained paradox of randomly collected trivia and quirks. Going nowhere, but I feel like I'm going there quickly.
You probably never heard of it Katılım Nisan 2022
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If even 1 person presses the blue, even by accident, and the rest press red that person dies
If the opposite is true no one dies
You're insane
ℏεsam@Hesamation
inventing a sacrifice nobody needs
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@SaveMeeJeebus @A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera If you can reach the threshold without our votes than you don't need our votes for everyone to live. If you don't think enough people will vote blue, then it is a suicide pact where you are hoping some of the red people will actually sacrifice themselves to save you.
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@jerfarhomer @A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera “Red or blue doesn’t matter”
Of course it does. If red wins, almost certainly many people die. If blue wins, everybody lives.
It’s not a suicide pact, it’s murder by the red pushers. “Suicide pact” is what red pushers like to say to absolve themselves of guilt.
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@kanyewest67 @YOUPOSTBAD You're assuming 50% is achievable. Reds are betting on that number not being possible and not wanting to throw more lives away than would needlessly pick blue and kill themselves.
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@YOUPOSTBAD The way I see it it takes less effort as a collective for 50% of us to choose blue than 100% of us to choose red
Yes, red is inherently safer but you also are creating the problem you fear the most.
I'll put trust in my fellow man
Billions shall live
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Every person I’ve seen trying to come up with an alternative way to word the question is lowkey missing the core point of the question
SummoningSalt@summoningsalt
A train is coming down a track. Everyone on Earth has the choice to either tie themselves to the track, or not. If more than 50% of people choose to tie themselves to the track, the train turns around and doesn't run them over. Yes or no - do you tie yourself to the track?
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@SaveMeeJeebus @A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera Every blue vote over the threshold is a vote to live until that point it is a suicide pact that hasn't gotten serious enough for you all to back out of yet. But if you reach the threshold, 49.9% of the other votes are irrelevant so red or blue doesn't matter.
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@jerfarhomer @A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera Every red vote is a vote to kill the blue button pressers, while every blue vote is a vote for everybody to live.
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@A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera I've seen witch hunt threats from blues, if they survive, threats of secret blue armies voting red to get revenge for the killed blues, and even a reimagined scenario where one person who will become a blue can push a green button to kill 3 billion red button pushers to win.
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@Femgeta @chuchu_hedera "waah push the blue button or I'll kill myself!!!"
Seems fascist
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@SaveMeeJeebus @A_Sober_Drunk @Femgeta @chuchu_hedera I've seen more blues threatening to kill people if we don't vote their way than reds.
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@selfmaxxer My experience in this discussion has been Reds trying to convince people to save themselves vs. being told by morally superior "we just want to save everyone" Blues they want Reds dead or ostracized for not picking Blue. Even to the point of witch hunts and revenge plots.
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I will just say it, the whole ''100% vs 50%'' argument from blues is a joke.
I don't care about reaching 100% survival rate, because those who died did so willingly. Don't suicide and make me responsible for your actions.
''B-but we have to save the retards''. Most blues think like that, therefore, you are the retards.
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@Padillac_16 If blue wins every time, why are you all still trying to force reds to change their minds. You should be fine without our votes, right?
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Red button pushers going "Blue button pushers are self-destructive idiots who'll choose the obvious worst option for no reason and complain about when they inevitably get destroyed" as if blue hasn't gotten the majority every time this poll happens
CinnamonToastKen@cinnamontoastk
This red button/blue button discourse is wild. 100% red saves everyone no consequence 51% of blue saves everyone no consequence 51% red kills all of blue but they frame it like its blues fault they had to kill them even though red is the only choice that causes anyone to die.
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@PavelTheDev If the goal of blue is for everyone to live, why should it matter after the fact who voted a certain way in a private vote?
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It would be much better if, when blue wins, everyone had their choice marked as a necklace or an unremovable earring.
This way, the world would always know what you chose
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@imkikosuarez @Rup4kC It doesn't guarantee anything except death unless over half the world thinks exactly like you do.
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That speaks more on you than the question itself
I immediately picked blue because its the only one that guarantees everyone lives 100%
The right thing to do is always the right thing to do regardless of you thinking what other people might or might not do
Which is irrelevant since more than 50% voted blue
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Actually blue guarantees everyone lives while red only guarantees YOU live
It shows your trust in humanity vs believing that everyone is on the same level of narcissism as you
Rupak@Rup4kC
Everyone’s is pressing the red button right? The blue button is just stupid, there’s no benefit to anyone, just pick the red and move on, no one dies, 100% survival Picking the blue is like tryna be the main character when we can avoid everything lol
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@imkikosuarez Blue is trusting over 4 billion people don't think like me and others the blues have been trying to coerce into picking blue to naturally pick blue on their own IRL in a private vote where they don't have any more information than red is their only safe option for themselves.
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@OfWonk @justMizuyuki @ryantristanb But to steal a blue argument some babies will still push red. At least in the original scenario you can push enough for an out, this is just straight up knowingly murdering 3 billion people. Blues can't come up with a scenario that doesn't threaten death to get cooperation.
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@jerfarhomer @justMizuyuki @ryantristanb The incorrectness of your first five words renders everything you said afterwards irrelevant.
And by the way, no one is making the red people choose red. If no one chooses red, the green button doesn’t do anything and no one dies.
Or are you just a fucking hypocrite?
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You're in the button scenario. The main buttons work as they normally do. If you hit a third, green button, 3 billion red voters die and their votes aren't counted, all but ensuring a blue victory, and you join the blue votes. What do you press.?
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@cheezchii @ChronoNEKO95 How is hoping nobody puts themselves in a position to be sacrificed cynical? We want everyone to choose life.
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@jerfarhomer @ChronoNEKO95 This is an insanely cynical way to view the situation lol. It's simple: You live in a world with kindness or die and avoid a world of selfishness. I know what I'm picking
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You see... I had this discussion with my wife earlier and I said I will push red bcs it's logically 100% chance survival
But then again
After taking my time thinking about it. I don't really wanna be stuck in a world full of ONLY people who pressed red.
So I'd choose blue xD
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@OfWonk @justMizuyuki @ryantristanb Reds aren't being selfish assholes, blues are putting themselves in danger and hoping that over half the world does the same thing, so they won't die. The green button is straight up you will murder knowingly 3 billion people. That won't teach anyone anything.
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@jerfarhomer @justMizuyuki @ryantristanb She’s introducing a third factor where suddenly the tables are turned on the people who were previously being selfish assholes about consigning other people to death… the point is to teach you perspective, not start a fight about the hypothetical.
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@cheezchii @ChronoNEKO95 They aren't throwing anyone under the bus. Reds just aren't tossing themselves in front of the bus while hoping both of you will be safe. We are yelling from the rooftops, " you don't have to step in front of the bus, we can all live if you just stay away from the bus!"
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@jerfarhomer @ChronoNEKO95 Yeah have fun living in a world where you'll always have to doubt everyone around you considering they're all ready to throw you under the bus for their own survivability
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@cheezchii @ChronoNEKO95 I have kindness and humanity, but I don't want to risk my life on the assumption that others will choose to save others over themselves.
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@ChronoNEKO95 Picking Blue means you have either kindness or trust in humanity. Living in a world without those types of people would probably suck
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@DaOminous @ChronoNEKO95 The only trust issues come from blue surviving because they are bitter over people they didn't need to depend on for their survival not trying to save them. Reds can rationally get along with people who chose survival.
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@ChronoNEKO95 Why does nobody think about the morning after
This poll is designed to make you think survival is good, but at what cost? I hope you like trust issues with others that picked red.
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@corsaren So half the population already voted and only 25% voted blue or were you trying for I'm the last deciding vote and it is a situation where if I pick, my vote decides the winning side? Because you worded it like we still have 50% left to vote.
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You know the drill. Four variants:
1) Everyone on earth has to press a red or blue button.
If >50% of people pick blue, everyone lives
If <=50% of people pick blue, only reds live
BUT, half the people already voted and you (and only you) saw the current tally: exactly 50/50.
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@AlexCaswen The thing is blue is trying to obligate you with an if just half of us press argument, which while a lower threshold, isn't guaranteed safety for yourself. You are hoping social pressures get over 4 billion people to realize that risking their lives saves everyone.
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“If everyone just presses red . . .”
Everyone will not just
If your strategy relies on “If everyone would just..." then you do not have a strategy
Everyone is not going to ‘just’.
At not time in the history of the universe has everyone just.
and they're not going to start now.
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