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@jjco42

MBA in Finance • Oklahoma City • Reformed Scholasticism • Baptist • Fueled by coffee & books • OU Sooner fan

Oklahoma City, OK Katılım Ocak 2015
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OKC THUNDER@okcthunder·
Thunder takes Game 1 😤
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@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano 3. This is quantifiable by the higher accounts of abuse reported when the interviewer is black vs white 4. Therefore the claims being made about the positive conditions of slavery should be scrutinized
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@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano My main argument 1. You are using interviews of former slaves from your screenshots to show slavery was “not that bad” 2. Many of the answers should be questioned based on the location/background of the interviews (Jim crow south) & the social environment of the interviews 1/2
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@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano 1. How is it constructive to cuss at me and tell me to go play “with baseball cards”? 2. Point out one objection I’ve made that’s incorrect
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth
Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
This is what I’m talking about. What do you mean? How do you mean this is not constructive. Do you want to see just how bad it is that people want to paint a picture and lie about these things because it makes white people look bad? Do you wanna see AI lie about the slave narratives she does it every time just to make why people live bad do you wanna see?
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Jordan@jjco42·
@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano Lol I’m not the cussing out and being unreasonable. I’m pointing out your logic is bad and your evidence actually support my claims. But keep crashing out lil bro
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
I’m not gonna play a little games dude you’re not being serious. This is not an authentic discussion. You’re just trying to take a little jabs and have a little victories do that. I’m here to actually share knowledge and exchange ideas. Go play with some baseball cards or something come back when you’re ready to actually have a real discussion it doesn’t include you trying to win your little. Shitty little pathetic game here. Learn some manners while you’re at it.
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@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano This proves my point. Higher levels of reported abuse depending on the interviewer and the perceived safety in their answers
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
@jjco42 @WASPmexicano There was plenty of black interviewers too, buddy didn’t change anything. Here’s the analysis. this is Paul Scott’s and slavery remembered an analysis of the slave narratives. This is what he found. This is a page straight from there see for yourself.
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@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano People living in the north (who were formerly enslsved in the south) were more free to be honest in these interviews Example from your own screenshot, the interview with John Rudd
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
@jjco42 @WASPmexicano Show you what from an northern state what do you mean they didn’t have slaves in the north dude do you wanna be a little bit more descriptive of what you’re talking about?
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
@jjco42 @WASPmexicano I’m sorry that I have some good points and I know what I’m talking about buddy. There’s no need to get personal. How does it show your arguments getting weak and I’m winning don’t do that.
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
@jjco42 @WASPmexicano Cause nobody reads it that’s what I meant. You think there’s only 33 and I guarantee you those are 33 cherry picked ones that are the worst ones guaranteed.
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Jordan@jjco42·
@someguyfromsfv @WASPmexicano So then why did you claim “we never actually hear directly from black folks that were there at the time when we study slavery?” ?
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Uncommon Unpopular Truth@someguyfromsfv·
All I have to go off of is a preferred firsthand account from former slaves. Not some guy that was passing through not somebody that was that read a book not somebody that wasn’t there but somebody that actually experienced it that’s where I get my information from. do you think these people are lying? Isn’t it kind of strange that we never actually hear directly from black folks that were there at the time when we study slavery? Isn’t that kind of weird? Well I’m here to tell you that that doesn’t exist and there’s a good reason why they don’t want you to read it. It doesn’t support the narrative like I said, I trust former slaves to tell me what slavery was like more than I trust some guy or professors from today who are basing it on their beliefs. I’ve read hundreds of firsthand accounts from former slaves. That’s what I based my opinion on
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Vicente Fox Mulder@WASPmexicano·
Objectively albeit grimly funny that the guys most worried about a war with Iran helped elect Donald Trump
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Jordan@jjco42·
@johnandrewwords @irishpresby Sure but it’s clear he distances himself from Southern slavery, calls it a sin, says the laws in place in the South are a cause for the suppression of advancement of black slaves. All of these are opposite positions Dabney would have held.
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John Reasnor@johnandrewwords·
@jjco42 @irishpresby He didn’t believe slavery, in the abstract, was always sinful. Generally speaking, this is also the view that even I hold. He did believe slavery as it was practiced in the US was sinful and supported gradual abolition.
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John Reasnor@johnandrewwords·
Once again, Hodge does not hold the same racialist views of Dabney, Thornwell, and some other Southern Presbyterians. Hodge is far from perfect (especially earlier in his life), but is in a very different category as his Southern counterparts. By the mid-1830s he was arguably that Black Americans should have full citizenship, he was signing onto a PCUSA statement calling the institution of slavery evil, did not oppose Black ordination, etc. Hodge had his prejudices, absolutely, but was a moderate at his worst and steadily moved in the righteous position as time moved on. Meanwhile, Dabney believed that God’s natural order made Whites superior and having Black slaves was a good and productive practice that God had called them to. Dabney died with these ideas. This is a misrepresentation of history that McGowan has been corrected on before. Yet here we are.
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So, a successor to the Northern Presbyterian Church (this OPC presbytery) explicitly criticizes the racial views of Southern Presbyterians but does not explicitly mention the racial views of men in their own tradition, like Northern Presbyterian Charles Hodge?

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@irishpresby @johnandrewwords “It is enough to humble the whole Christian world to hear our Presby. brethren in the South declaring that the great mission of the Southern church was to conserve the system of African slavery. Since the death of Christ no such dogma stains the record of an ecclesiastical body”
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Oklahoma Softball@OU_Softball·
Back-to-Back SEC Regular Season Champs 🏆 Our 14th consecutive season with either a conference regular season or tourney title ☝️
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