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@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba So you want to include people who have been benefiting under a system and still holds majority of the economy? What do you think is the policy aimed at? To oppress the white people?

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Loving the euphemism of "corrective policy." just say it is, exclusionary and oppressive. Is the ever rising unemployment rate, closing of industries, lack of investment, stagnating economy, increasing poverty rate not enough proof enough for you?

“Who has actually been empowered by BBBEE?” Let me answer that directly. I have. Not through tenders. Not through shortcuts. Not through connections. Through access. Access to an industry that was historically closed. Access to opportunities that allowed me to build real capability. Access to participate in an economy that was never designed for me. From there, everything else was execution. Today, I run a broadcast systems integration company and a dubbing studio. We create jobs. We train people. We build workflows and systems that compete at a global level. That didn’t happen in isolation. Policies like BBBEE, especially in areas like skills development and supplier development, helped create an entry point. Are there problems? Yes. Are there abuses? Definitely. But dismissing the entire framework ignores the fact that some of us didn’t just benefit, we built on top of that opportunity. The real conversation is not whether empowerment exists. It’s how to fix what’s broken without destroying what works.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba To indulge your circular reasoning, Apartheid enforced exclusion and oppression while BEE is a corrective policy. Yes, corruption hurts delivery, but that’s a governance failure, not proof that redress itself is illegitimate. Try again with the false equivalence.

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Such a strawman argument. How about instead of picking on a minor, literal differences try addressing the main point instead? Look man, if you can't rely of your Dogma for answers, perhaps try using reality as a foundation, you might learn a thing or two.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba Damn they are really bad at implementing race-based laws because for one, you don't carry around a dompas.

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba The ANC flipped apartheid’s playbook, same bureaucracy, same legal quotas, same race-based rules laws and legislation , just now Black South Africans are the beneficiaries. And boy, how little you benifit under your own systems due to corruption and incompetence.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba Adopt Apartheid policies and method? Do you also have "reverse Apartheid" brain rot.

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba But of course, aparthied was so terrible you had to adopt it's policies and methods. How could I forget. Of course B-BBEE isn't leveling the playing field, because those that use it, use it to enrich themselves. Tell, what did we have during and after aparthied?

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba On top of the circular reasoning, you are a liar as well. Apartheid had far-reaching effects, which shaped the policies we adopted. BEE is a response to that and still it hasn't leveled the playing field, but you who had, and still have, an advantage are crying.

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Apartheid ended 30 years ago. Since then B-BBEE, affirmative action, and trillions lost to corruption have shaped today’s economy far more. Deny it, and it only proves you're a dogmatic Ideologue.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba The stats speak a different story

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Apartheid ended 30 years ago and policies like B-BBEE and affirmative action exist today. At what point do current policies share responsibility for outcomes?

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba What a long way of saying you don't know how to interpret data. Anyway, starting a business isn’t unfair, but acting like post-Apartheid SA is a level playing field is pure denial. And go and practice your weird sexual fantasies on someone else

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba The SARB and SSA don’t break down assets and wealth by race, so how do we know “racial advantage”? And if I start a company today, is that automatically unfair to a Black person since I'll be taking a "top role"? The envy dick in your mouth is screwing with your logic.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba Two things can be true, but context matters. “Disadvantage” under B-BBEE exists in an economy still shaped by Apartheid. Data from Statistics South Africa & South African Reserve Bank shows wealth, assets & top roles remain skewed.

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Two things can be true, whites may have lower unemployment, and B-BBEE can still disadvantage them. The policy allocates tenders, ownership, and hiring incentives based on race, not individual need Could you please point out how you know whites own majority of the economy and how

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba You do understand the reason behind BEE right? You mention all this, yet white owns majority of the economy and has the lowest unemployment. So in light of this, how is BEE disadvantages white people while the stats favour them?

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Points system favoring Black owned businesses. Black companies get first pick on government tenders and contracts. Money, jobs, and opportunities circulate mainly within Black-owned networks. White owned businesses and outsiders often miss out or are coersed in compliance.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba Regardless of your understanding and bad faith argument, whites still benefit from it as well. So sit down with your "superior" understanding of B-BBEE

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Clearly you don't understand how B-BBEE works...

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba Are you aware that white people also get tenders? If that's the hill you want to die on, then according to your argument, everyone benefits from a tender. Again, can you even read? Do you even understand how B-BEE functions?

@jo_lottering @AfikaSoyamba Do you even understand how B-BBEE functions, how it receives funding, how that funding is precured or companies that use B-BBEE are reliant on other B-BBEE companies that receive tenders? Even if he states he never received a formal tender, he has certainly benifited from one.

@SwordandFamine @AfikaSoyamba Please don't participate in intellectual conversations again. It's not for you.

@AfikaSoyamba Thats not BEE. Its entrepreneurship. BEE is the policy of stealing from white business to give to black politicians who do nothing to contribute. Your argument falls flat.

@monsterted2 @AfikaSoyamba Can you even read?

@AfikaSoyamba So you're a tenderprenuer. That explains why you're defending B-BBEE. Your cash cow is about to die and you are desperate to keep it alive. Cause without it you're incapable of maintaining your own industry through personal skill and development. Makes a lot of sense now

@He1nGersbach @BiancavanWyk16 Are you okay in the head? Since when is spreading awareness bad? You're a proper moron

@BiancavanWyk16 @BiancavanWyk16 . This is truly a sad case, and how disappointing of you to really go and find something to post just to to prove your narrative. What a despicable human been. No different to the very person you are sharing information on. I feel sad for this family's loss.

Maryka Kleynhans (31) dies on the side of a road in Mpumalanga in 2019 after being in a vehicle with SAPS captain Awie Geldenhuys. Her parents are not contacted that night, they find out the next morning. What happened in that vehicle is still being examined. After her death, IPID investigates. Geldenhuys is dismissed in 2019… then reinstated in 2023 after arbitration. But the story doesn’t end there. Allegations linked to Awie Geldenhuys span decades and multiple towns, including rape, sexual assault and other misconduct, some reported while he was still in uniform. In November 2025, Geldenhuys is arrested. Geldenhuys now faces 36 charges: 11 rape, 2 attempted rape, 5 sexual assault, 4 indecent assault, 13 assault GBH, 1 crimen injuria. He has not pleaded. Bail was denied in the Middelburg Magistrates Court last week. An appeal is coming. ⚖️ The judicial inquest is still underway into Maryka Kleynhans’ death.

@FurryContrarian @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 30% black ownership at the SA licence-holder level. Starlink hasn’t structured a local entity to meet that. It’s a compliance issue, not race. It's not about Elon's race. It's about compliance with our laws. Why is Amazon operating in SA despite its white ownership? Reconcile it.

@jo_lottering @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 What are these B-BBEE requirements that Starlink currently does not meet?

So the IMF “BEE quote” is originally from the organisation where the “race laws” list guy is Head of Policy. I am shocked … not.😅

@FurryContrarian @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 Where's the facts? You are emotionally using propaganda talking points. You are not using your brains. You have not given facts. You just heard racists use these talking points because they so badly want to be victims, while ignoring other white owner operating here. Explain that

@MonwabisiNjeza @jo_lottering @BiancavanWyk16 When presented with facts your most compelling argument is: "Fuck off!"? Really?

@FurryContrarian @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 Again, false premise. Bakwena is a locally structured, compliant licensee. Starlink is a foreign service that hasn’t met ICASA/B-BBEE requirements. That’s the difference, not race. Critical thinking skills are lacking dude

@jo_lottering @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 So how is Bakwena compliant while the owner retains 100% ownership but Starlink is not compliant specifically BECAUSE the owner retains 100% ownership? Look at their photo's. What is different between these 2 men?

@FurryContrarian @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 ICASA doesn’t license people by race, it licenses companies based on compliance. An SA Pty Ltd can be licensed if it meets ownership/empowerment rules. Starlink isn’t live because it hasn’t met those conditions, not because of Musk’s race. It's👏about👏company👏compliance

@MonwabisiNjeza @jo_lottering @BiancavanWyk16 Not true. Even with a South African registered Pty Ltd Musk will still not be granted an ICASA license simply because of his race. If that was all that was required Starlink would have been up & running in SA years ago already! You just cannot bring yourself to admit the truth!

@FurryContrarian @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 False equivalence. Ramashala runs a SA-licensed ISP already compliant with ICASA rules. Starlink is a foreign service that must meet the same local licensing + B-BBEE requirements. Not about race, it's about compliance.

@jo_lottering @MonwabisiNjeza @BiancavanWyk16 This is not true. Even if Starlink registers a Pty Ltd in South Africa in order to trade as an ISP Musk is STILL obliged to give up 30% of the shares of the company. If he was a black man he would not be required to give up 30% of the company.