john fair
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john fair
@johnjfair
"Do you really think it matters, Eddie?"
United States Katılım Ağustos 2024
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@MattH_4America Just another weak person who is blaming their grandparents for the consequences of their choices
The person responsible for your actions is you
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@brucefenton You have no Honor…14 generations of my direct line have stood a post … starting with a Connecticut militia unit in the French and Indian war, and my son is currently active duty
my Family “Serves” this nation… yours apparently merely served…there is a difference
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Brother … no govt can alleviate the problems of fallen man…
we are created in HIS image…
We are all EQUALLY condemned… some are elected to be redeemed…
you are free to chose to pick any political ideology you desire…
you just appear to be unwilling to own it…
To me, theft is not a moral way to govern… that’s just me…
Have a safe and uneventful week my friend.
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Well, I believe man is made in God’s image, a that is of infinite value, and any infinite compared to another are equal, concluding that all of man is equal under God.
I’m not the biggest statist, I believe it is a necessary evil to protect our God given rights, and that it can alleviate some societal problems.
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@mdowstfl @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
you do NOT believe in liberty and equality… you are just another statist
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@johnjfair @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness You are right I do not support equal taxation, given people have differing abilities to contribute.
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@liberal_jamie @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness You do NOT support equality… you support wealth transfers… NOT the same
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@johnjfair @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness Flat tax would be a windfall for the wealthy and would increase the tax burden on low and middle class. Most analyses suggest that without a gradual phase-in society would likely experience significant social instability, increased poverty, and a rapid widening of the wealth gap.
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@mdowstfl @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness You support taxing people at disparate rates… that means you do NOT support equality…
Pretty simple
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@johnjfair @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness I get it you support equal consumption taxation even if it shifts the tax burden from the wealthiest to the poor and middle class.
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@mdowstfl @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness I support equality… plain and simple… you don’t… we simply disagree
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@johnjfair @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness So you support the shifting the current tax burden from the wealthy to the poor and middle class in a belief it will lead to lower taxation?
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@mdowstfl @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness YES THEY ARE.
we will NEVER return to what we we started out as and were meant to be until we once again treat EVERYONE equally…
we need to get govt out of the charity business… it’s not its place… individuals are called to be charitable…not to advocate theft in its place
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Well, outside of spending cuts to reduce spending on those most in need. That tax policy to raise the same amount of revenue would raise taxes very highly on the poor and middle class, and reduce it greatly for the wealthiest. I understand your points, but are those the effects you want to have on America?
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@mdowstfl @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness We should not tax a person’s labor at all… however, if we do EVERYONE should be taxed at the exact same rate/percentage …
THAT is treating all people EQUALLY
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@johnjfair @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness So, we should tax the poor and middle class more, the wealthy less. We should spend less on those in need. And we should support authortarianism to achieve this?
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@liberal_jamie @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness You really need to read more… a Rate IS a percentage … dear lord… I will never get back the time I have spent trying to help you,
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@liberal_jamie @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness Just keep reading … just remember … Plato’s “republic” is a work of satire… start there and your entire worldview will transform ….
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@liberal_jamie @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness I have clarified at least 3 times… everyone pays the same RATE
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@johnjfair @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness I get that, what I don't get is what the fuck you are talking about with regard to equal taxes and you refuse to clarify. Why?
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@liberal_jamie @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness You might be starting to get it… read / study more and you will…
TJ knew that the unnatural aristocracy should give way to the natural one…
THAT is what equality is about … allowing that to happen
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@johnjfair @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness Jefferson feared that excessive wealth gaps could destroy a republic. He wanted for government to allow for free upward mobility based on effort and ability, while also allowing the untalented or inept wealthy to lose their position, ensuring that society is led by merit.
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@theficouple No one is trapped, they are not slaves or in prison… they have a choice to make…
Yes, it is just that simple
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@mdowstfl @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness No disconnect at all… we either believe in equality or we dont… there really are no gray areas…
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@johnjfair @liberal_jamie @4TaxFairness I think the disconnect is considering it as same rate of income or consumption.
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@johnjfair @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness A flat 15% tax treats people equally under the percentage definition (same rate for all).
But it does not treat them equally under the dollar definition — the high earner pays far more in actual dollars ($150,000 vs $3,000).
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@johnjfair @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness There are two different meanings of “equality” in taxation - equal dollar amount and equal percentage rate. These two are not the same thing.
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@liberal_jamie @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness “Hitting one earner differently than another” based on a percentage is irrelevant…
You either are for equality or you are not
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@johnjfair @mdowstfl @4TaxFairness Wanting the same flat percentage rate with no exemptions is a valid opinion.
But denying that some taxes (especially consumption taxes) hit lower-income people harder as a share of their income is factually wrong.
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