@MTM35276486 @VideoCardz It's not a hard shut down of the PC. It shuts down the GPU. There are a few ways you can work your way to shutting down the PC properly from there.
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Jon Gerow
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Jon Gerow
@jonnygerow
aka jonnyGURU. Once computer hardware reviewer, now computer hardware creator.
World traveler. Katılım Ağustos 2010
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@VideoCardz Das ist dann aber ein hartes herunterfahren des PCs.
oder wird zuerst auf 450 Watt runter gedrosselt ?
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Corsair explains why 12V-2×6 still needs protection despite revised connector design
videocardz.com/newz/corsair-e…
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@unikoshardware What they've found is that by placing the conductive material at the distance from the connector where they did, they effectively doubled the capacity of each conductor. But only for that distance of wire between the terminal and the "Equalizer" cable comb.
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@jonnygerow would you make one like that with 3 dimple terminals ?
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hardware busters tested the asus rog equalizer 16pin cable again. this time aris put 17a load to the rog 16pin cable just to "verify" the 17a spec claimed by asus.
the cable is quite solid after all, the temps under load are sick!
a 16pin cable is good until it starts to melt. deformation is still my no1 suspect.
so, rog=for those who dare!
first test
hwbusters.com/psus/asus-rog-…
second test (latest)
hwbusters.com/psus/asus-rog-…
UNIKO's Hardware 🌏@unikoshardware
asus has told you that even the 8.67a imbalance (15a-6.33a) is still fine on the rog equalizer 16pin cable, as long as none of the 12v pins exceeds 17a(=abnormal). "normal: everything is running fine" for me, the main point is whether the 12v wires can safely handle 17a continuously. it is also unlikely that all six 12v wires would simultaneously pull over 17a. btw adding up the currents in the example given by asus on the product page, 6.33a+17.1a+12.5a+15a+8.2a+6.35a=65.48a 65.48a x 12v=785.76w maybe this was tested on rog matrix 5090 with a fake gc_hpwr input so that the matrix 800w bios drew almost all the power via the 16pin header.
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@unikoshardware Yep! Nothing special about their terminals or connector. They're still the same 8.5A rated stuff everyone else uses. The reason Asus says each conductor or terminal or whatever they say supports 17A is not because it ACTUALLY supports 17A each from a mechancal standpoint.
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@unikoshardware @Carlos14781056 I have one of the ASRock PSUs. Can't comment on the Gigabyte. But it would be cool if you could monitor it in the software and change the trip point since it does use an NTC.
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@unikoshardware @Carlos14781056 Sort of over simplified and gives the PSU a bit too much credit. The ASRock PSU doesn't have monitoring. Isn't "intelligent". Like the thermal switch, it's using a set trip point that's been programmed at the factory.
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thanks to der8auer's teardown and in-depth analysis, we now know more about the rog equalizer 16pin cable.
well it seems we can mod any 16pin cable by adding the metal bridge in between.
i was thinking the wires of the rog equalizer 16pin cable were soldered to the bridge.
youtube der8auer en
youtube.com/watch?v=PJrazR…
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@unikoshardware @Carlos14781056 Uses an NTC thermistor on the ground wires and only works on that particular model PSU.. but better than nothing.
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@unikoshardware @Carlos14781056 Well... That's the problem, right? The heat has to go somewhere eventually.
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@Carlos14781056 the psu side of the cable melts first, according to hardware busters's video.
youtube.com/watch?v=2eEv-g…
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@wccftech How has USAs consumer law not looked into Amazon yet for return scams
And before people jump yes, it's an Amazon issue as they clearly aren't doing their job on checking returns and passing the issue onto the next customer and not following up with the account that returned items
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With built in Over Temperature Protection (OTP), wide compatibility design to work with any 12V-2x6 connection PSU, and visual confirmation of a secure connection, the Thermal Protect PCIe cable is here to protect your hardware for years to come. 👏
Out now 🔌
cor.sr/thermal-protec…
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ASUS puts a $50 tag on safer GPU power cables, ROG Equalizer now has a price
videocardz.com/newz/asus-puts…
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@unikoshardware Why are you using an adapter? Those, for whatever reason, seem to melt more often.
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"I did not know that there are other cables (direct cables) so its sucks"
sapphire nitro+ 9070xt, used for 1yr
bequiet 700w psu
sapphire 16pin adapter used
sapphire 16pin adapter melted
r/pcmasterrace
reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace…
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@SKAM_PC @unikoshardware Honestly, the number of connectors melting are like 1 in a few thousand. Just social media and the news reporting every instance amplifies it.
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@jonnygerow @unikoshardware its all depend of your case and GPU there are a lot of adpaters for different positions, it's limited to my experience of not any one of them burning (for now , as i said , like ~130 used in 3 years, i always used one if i felt the cable would be too much bent)
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rog equalizer teardown
- you need a big case (with large cpu clearance), unless you are mounting your gpu vertically
- the balance is done via the builtin metal
this kind of cable is not bad at all, as commented by jonnyguru: "It's a nice cable. And it's better than most off the shelf solutions...."
on forum ptt, someone posted a picture that segotep, after lauching its 15a strong-current-cable (強流線), is now going to launch a balance-current-cable. in the picture, 銅壁 (copper-wall) is mentioned, so i guess it is similar to the asus's solution.
"2. Innovative copper wall design: the wire and copper wall are die-cast as a single unit, which can quickly improve the temperature rise and prevent burnout when the interface is abnormal or loose."
r/ZOTAC
reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/commen…
ptt forum
ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shoppin…
UNIKO's Hardware 🌏@unikoshardware
wow asus has entered the chat again after featuring power detector+ on the gpu side (astral/matrix only). segotep claims 14a asus rog claims 17a, clearly for 3a gamers! asus's "hardware-level safeguards" asus mentions "spring contacts". i dont know whether thats the socalled 4-spring terminals, or thats the latest terminals that combines dimple+spring. asus also mentions this: "Aging materials or changes in connector contact quality can cause uneven resistance, resulting in localized heat buildup within GPU power connectors. ROG Equalizer ensures balanced power delivery across pins, reducing temperature differences and protecting the graphics card." btw i still dont understand how the cable "balance" the current, if there is not mosfets built in to actively balance the resistances across the six 12v pins.
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@SKAM_PC @unikoshardware By adding a 90° adapter, which adds an additional point of potential failure, you're not really doing much better. You're "allowed" to bend the cable at 30mm, but this cable has a giant metal block at 30mm.
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@Pringlang @Pirat_Nation No. Their cable manufacturer/ODM innovated.
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ASUS just solved a real pain point for high-power GPU builds.
Their new violet ROG Equalizer 16-pin connector is rated for up to 17A per pin nearly double the standard 9.2A delivering way more stable power.
Tested on a 600W-loaded RTX 5090D: connector temps dropped from 59.8°C to 50.7°C, with significantly lower voltage drop.
This is exactly the upgrade the 50-series needed to kill overheating drama.
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@SKAM_PC @unikoshardware With the GPU perpendicular to the side panel (not using a vertical riser) how would you not bend the cable???
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@unikoshardware what ? that's normal ... you never bend this fcking cable , i personally use this rule and, on.. i think a little more than 130 used i still had no problem of burning cable ( i know it's still too small of a pool ) that's basically what is doing this cable
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@konigssohne @unikoshardware They strip the wires where they meet the metal block, if that's what you're asking.
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@unikoshardware Are they splicing the lines back together ?
I guess that could work.
(still, it's the tiny pins)
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@Madness727 I mean... That's essentially that new Asus cable. Under that metal comb are copper blocks that goes over exposed wires. Acts as load balancing and heatsink.
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