Judd Dredge

@Jether__ @Mr_Blankname @FlatEarthDaveX You gave some deflecting answer that not being required is not the same as not existing. That's true, but the original post said the container NEEDED to be there. That's what me and the other guy were refuting. it's like talking to a brick wall

@judd_dredge @Mr_Blankname @FlatEarthDaveX When you said that the container is not required, what did I answer? You are still ignoring the post.

@Jether__ @Mr_Blankname @FlatEarthDaveX You download any GNSS sensor app on your phone and it'll tell you which satellites your phone is connected to, which countries they belong to, signal strength etc. The vacuum already has pretty extensive behind it. All I did was respond that the container is not required.

@judd_dredge @Mr_Blankname @FlatEarthDaveX Yeah, but did you read the post? You´re ignoring it. And you have not provided a single argument which supports the stance that there is nothing.

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Do you have a diagram that shows a representation of your worldview? I'm curious

@judd_dredge @darkagenda @FELibrary_ In my religious worldview, this sun is now setting towards the lower ocean, and before that it was from the higher ocean.

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ And it DOES matter. It's literally your worldview. Why would you believe in something that you can't answer even the first question about? Why does the sun very obviously sink below the ocean during sunset?

@judd_dredge @darkagenda @FELibrary_ It doesn't matter, because it's just a black box. At the output we just need "a bounced signal off," so we brute force it, until we get that result, and note the value of the positive input.

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Incorrect. If the firmament is (I assume) a curved surface, the shape would have to be perfectly known in order to know how long the signal took to a receiver. Without an exact distance, you can't get a position. GNSS works by measuring precise time delay to multiple stations

@hendyisbendy @limitandmind "IF a ... God exists" That's circular. The problem of evil is about trying to work out whether all-good, all powerful and all-knowing God is a better explanation for what we see in the world than some alternative view point. Many fine the latter far more likely, myself included

@limitandmind Technically it is a logically self solving problem. If an omnipotent god exists then this is the best possible world by default. Limited creatures don’t have a say in the judging of this creation. Doesn’t help the emotions of humans but is logically necessary

The Problem of Suffering cannot be solved by logical argument. Only through relationship with a God who enters into your suffering to redeem it will you see the problem in a new way.

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ So what is it then? This is something integral to your model. How high/large are the sun and the moon? What speed to they move at over the surface of the disk? How high is the firmament at the equator? How high at the poles? If you can't answer any of these, why believe it?

@judd_dredge @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Or you just bruteforce it, until you find the height

@aquavitae96 It's a specific response to the claim that homosexuality is "unnatural", which is being used as a proxy for "bad" by the Christian. Many things are natural and things we collectively agree are bad, and other things are unnatural and generally liked. Air conditioning, for example

Atheists: We are critical thinkers. Also, atheists: We love committing logical fallacies galore. In this case, the naturalistic fallacy. (BTW, cannibalism, rape, and filicide are also common in nature. Nature isn't judging. Why are atheists?)

@iBrowsie @Arqosh You're wrong

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the world is flat.

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Not only that, that data would need by be stored internally in EVERY GNSS receiver. Have you or any other Flat Earther managed to find the code which corrects for positioning using signals bouncing off the dome? If that's even possible?

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ By the way, in order to bounce a signal off the firmament to determine position, you'd need to know the EXACT height, shape and reflection characteristics of the dome itself at every point over Earth. Do you know the exact specifications of the firmament?

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Non directional beacons sometimes are able to bounce waves off the ionosphere. It's very VERY different to a GNSS position solution. It's unreliable and low accuracy. GNSS is highly reliable, works regardless of altitude and position, day or night, ignoring ionospheric distortion

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Radio waves do not give the same level of precision or accuracy as GNSS. If you were using the same system, you'd have to know the EXACT height of the ionosphere at every point on earth for the receiver to calculate a position. Also, ionospheric reflection is not reliable at all

@darkagenda @FELibrary_ It can, and that's exactly what the wiki page you liked will say. Pseudo forces can absolutely have real effects if you're speaking about a particular reference frame.

@judd_dredge @FELibrary_ No, you think a pseudo-force that isn't real, is causing weather formations. 😏You are the delusional zealot here.

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ Not in the middle of the ocean they can't. GNSS still works in the middle of the Pacific ocean. It uses satellites. You can download an app and SEE which satellites your phone is connected to right now

@darkagenda @judd_dredge @FELibrary_ I don't even see any point in them other than for espionage, radio towers can do triangulations with very high distances

@darkagenda @Arqosh @FELibrary_ GNSS works by measuring the time delay of messages travelling at light speed. This means you need to know EXACTLY where the emitting station is. A balloon cannot perform this function. Towers need LOS, and GNSS observably works in the middle of the ocean and other remote places

@judd_dredge @Arqosh @FELibrary_ Satellites? You mean high-altitude balloons and ground/sea-based towers.

@darkagenda @FELibrary_ An apparent force like coriolis is indeed a pseudo force in that it is not the wind changing speed, it is the air moving a slower rotating Lattitude. But if you're standing at that Lattitude, guess what? It still feels like wind.

@darkagenda @FELibrary_ Your inability to grasp how something works isn't a gotcha, it's a self-tell. If you were standing on top of a speeding train and got hit by an unmoving signpost, does it not hurt because the signpost wasn't moving? In YOUR frame of reference it was moving, so it still hurts you

@Arqosh @darkagenda @FELibrary_ I'm not a software engineer so I can't speak to what is recorded. One thing which is definitely tracked is GNSS position. GNSS works by measuring time delay to satellites in predictable and known orbits to triangulate position. GNSS works in places where there is no cell service

@judd_dredge @darkagenda @FELibrary_ do the plane have a device that records the aerodynamical values of his flight? and if so, which parameters prove earth curvature in very obvious way?