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@ricktroche333 @DeltaAlmagest @LuciidDreamt @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics yet from Z onward, they win by being stronger. Still waiting....yall can provide evidence, or keep coping.
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@khalilasbro @DeltaAlmagest @LuciidDreamt @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics The whole foundation of the show is martial arts, the foundation of their fighting is also martial arts. Just because they get power boosted doesn’t mean they’re not more technically sound in their martial arts than their opponents in most cases… + the examples given already. GG
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Have you never seen Dragon Ball?
Don't limit character's fighting ability simply because you lack creativity
Null@Vhoyde
If you think martial arts is applicable to these characters then you don't know how martial arts works
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@DMichaelMG @Thechat101 and Ye washed him without even meaning/ trying to. That whole free Larry Hoover concert showed who was the real king....
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@Thechat101 The only cat that could go hit for hit with Ye is Drake #facts
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@Thechat101 Ye FKA Kanye West would absolutely washes and humble Jay Z in a verzus. Jay would run out of songs before Kanye gets to TLOP....
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@TyrannyOfJ @LuciidDreamt @ricktroche333 @DeltaAlmagest @AniRayComics Golden Frieza, before the stamina issues, was stronger than Goku and beating him. Goku didn't start winning until Frieza got weaker....
Try again.
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@khalilasbro @LuciidDreamt @ricktroche333 @DeltaAlmagest @AniRayComics Goku and Vegeta vs Golden Frieza is the perfect example.
Frieza rushed to Earth once he got golden form and lost to Goku and Vegeta because they trained more on stamina, and conserved their energy.
Golden Frieza and Blue Goku were even had it not been for stamina and skill
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@ricktroche333 @DeltaAlmagest @LuciidDreamt @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics " Not getting/ being stronger/faster...pure martial arts skill"
Still waiting.
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@khalilasbro @DeltaAlmagest @LuciidDreamt @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics That doesn’t matter, you asked for an example and that’s an example. Don’t cherry pick 😂
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@DeltaAlmagest @LuciidDreamt @ricktroche333 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics He was stronger than all of the Ginyu force...
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@khalilasbro @LuciidDreamt @ricktroche333 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics There was a whole Tournament of Power which he did. And in terms of a Z opponent, there is also the Ginyu Force. :/
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@LASHYBILLS Why put the guys in a conflict of interest situation, especially if the relationship ended on bad terms. The mom should be the only one dropping the kids off. Step parents should not if the bio parent is at odds.
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@mrshowtime205 @AniRayComics He beat Jiren by transforming and gaining a massive power boost via Ultra Instinct. I understand at its core it is a technique, however for Goku, especially during the TOP, it served as a transformation to increase his strength/speed as well....
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@khalilasbro @AniRayComics goku vs jiren is literally straight martial arts man
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@LuciidDreamt @ricktroche333 @DeltaAlmagest @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics They win by powering up over their opponents, but again, you can prove me wrong. Show me an example from Z onward where Goku/Vegeta beats an opponent without a power up using pure martial arts skill....... Not getting/ being stronger/faster...pure martial arts skill
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@khalilasbro @ricktroche333 @DeltaAlmagest @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics “So explain why they need more power to defeat a guy who can destroy a mountain with a single punch”
Brother what the fuck are you on about??? They literally FIGHT with MARTIAL ARTS. Holy retardation
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@ricktroche333 @LuciidDreamt @DeltaAlmagest @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics So explain why they had to be stronger in order to win the fight?
As a matter of fact, show me an example from Z onward where Goku/Vegeta beats an opponent without a power up using pure martial arts skill.....
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@LuciidDreamt @khalilasbro @DeltaAlmagest @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics Big facts, buddy thinks two things can’t be true😂 Yeahh their power was boosted, but they won, and out classed Broly through Technique and martial artistry
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@DeltaAlmagest @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics he did....which is why they had to fuse. They, the master martial artist, couldn't beat him together before fusion. Again, that fight would have been a great moment to demonstrate martial artistry, yet they resorted to a massive power boost to win...
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@khalilasbro @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics It makes a super fighter and magnifies the power of the 2 fusee's. Kaioken does a similar effect, I get that.
But there in lies why I commented. Disregarding Gogeta, who is the ultimate culmination of the movie. Why didn't Broly run over both Goku *And* Vegeta when separated?
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@DeltaAlmagest @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics A technique that does what? Kaio ken is also a technique...what does it do?
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@khalilasbro @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics Fusion is a Technique, and Goku did prove it during his fight with Broly. Given the fact he tripped him up twice then, by redirection and his God Bind technique.
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@anthony_po37884 @ABC Latino is an ethnicity, not a race. Latinos literally fought to be considered White. They are White. Y'all love lumping dark skinned folks together when it suits so take ya WHITE brethren with ya.
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A man is facing attempted murder charges after prosecutors in Seattle say he tried to push a stranger in front of a moving train. abcnews.link/b2yS5QD
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@SensaiiX3 @redman2408 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics you aren't remembering correctly. Full power frieza was 120 mil PL, while Goku was 150 mil. Once Goku went SS, Frieza never catches up to him in terms of power until the ROF stuff. During ROF, yes Frieza was stronger at max, and that is when he was winning the fight.
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@khalilasbro @redman2408 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics Full power Frieza was actually slightly stronger than Super Saiyan Goku if I remember correctly.
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@redman2408 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics and it only "almost" got him because he wasn't using his full power. He was never "serious" about the fight until Goku went SS, which by that time, even his full power wasn't enough to close the power gap SS created.
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@khalilasbro @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics he ALMOST got his ass beat with the Genkidama and only get the upper hand because the gang legit thought they got him. He wasn't using full power not out of choice but Frieza himself said due to not training he can't even handle his own full power.
Agree about Granolah tho
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@Guile_Gale @AlphonzoXP @AbhiKola161962 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics it isn't what "I" think, it is simply what the story says. Ask yourself, "what is the point of fusion in Dragon ball". If both Goku and Vegeta are master martial artist, what does fusion do for them to help them win their battles where fusion is seen?????
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@khalilasbro @AlphonzoXP @AbhiKola161962 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics Yeah you in particular would think that, wouldn't you.
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@Guile_Gale @AlphonzoXP @AbhiKola161962 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics and you are wrong. They won because of the overwhelming power of fusion. Not because of martial arts. Remove fusion, and leave the 2 martial artist, and they were toast......the fusion is what won them that match up with Broly.
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@AlphonzoXP @AbhiKola161962 @khalilasbro @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics I'm not arguing that they didn't get stronger by fusing. That's not my point. I'm arguing that what ACTUALLY beat Broly was their martial arts, because the topic of the thread is superpowered martial arts being useful, not the minutiae of power levels.
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@redman2408 @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics This is about Goku. Pre SS Goku didn't hold anything to Frieza, as Frieza was stated to be holding back. Once Frieza powered up, Goku got his ass whooped. Same with Broly. Same with Granolah. Goku won vs Frieza and Broly once he gained a power boost....
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@khalilasbro @TyrannyOfJ @AniRayComics in this very scene Roshi told Goku that powering up wasn't the answer and the reason he lost to Jiren was because Goku forgot the core tenet of martial art and relied too much on power. Even pre-SS Goku held his own against Frieza EXACTLY because that mfer knows how to fight.

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