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he Katılım Ağustos 2017
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@AnArtistsEnd @doaenel @RiotPhroxzon it probably is honestly but its a bit of that and the fact that i dont think its ever going to improve so i think ill just stop my ranked journey here
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@knavefull @doaenel @RiotPhroxzon If you are discouraged by 800 I think that’s a you problem, 800 is (or was) a fairly standard amount especially towards the end of season. I’d be okay and always have been w those numbers but the way they presented their last suggestions GM would be at least double that amount…
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Apex LP Gains
Hey everyone,
We’ve had a lot of attempted changes to resolve some of the root issues with the Apex experience this year. Some have worked OK and others haven’t worked as well.
We wanted to shine a light on changes that are going out (hopefully) today and how we’re going to approach it for the near term and wanted to apologize for the experience that people have been running into so far.
Does every region have negative LP gains?
- Less than 5 of our 16 regions are having negative LP gains in Apex right now, and they’re to varying extents
- Some of those are experiencing it consistently and others, just a little bit, and most, none at all
Is Aegis of Valor causing this?
- We don’t see any long term impacts on LP gains caused by Aegis
- Especially given that the majority of regions are functioning completely fine
What’s going on then?
- Masters being more achievable this Season & the best players getting stronger as the years go on is expanding the gap between the bottom of Master and the top of Challenger.
- The addition of Challenger duos made it more challenging to balance some of these games
- While we took pre-emptive mitigations to reduce the impact of things like Rank 1 & 2 duoing together, they weren’t powerful enough and resulted in the best players catapulting further ahead
- The rollout of our improved Matchmaking and better balance to duos (this is now Live in every region); does a better job of balancing duos and balancing autofills to make Apex matches more balanced in over 90% of cases, but there is still work to be done when the very best players are duoing together
- In the Live Ranked system, the max LP attainable has a soft cap to prevent LP gains from getting too high, which combined with the above issues has led to a less than ideal apex ladder experience
Are you going to reset the ladder?
- There are some set of people who are really vocal about resetting the ladder; we hear the concerns and are taking them seriously
- At the same time, there are a lot of players who will find it very frustrating for all their progress to be reset and while some players will be happy we reset it, others will not, so we’re continuing to evaluate
The changes we’re making
- To reiterate, in the Live Ranked system, the max LP attainable has a soft cap to prevent LP gains from getting too high
- The closer you get to the top of the ladder, you need a higher and higher winrate to climb.
- ie. As a player gets closer and closer to the cap, their gains will approach +10/-30
- We’re going to remove this cap, which will unbound LP on the top end and result in the very best players being able to play and climb to pretty high LP values (+30/-10LP until they start to reach where they should be)
- It will also make LP gains for the entire Apex ladder more stable, but LP cutoffs for Grandmaster and Challenger will also increase when most players no longer have negative LP gains
- We expect most regions to reach peak LP’s of around 3000 and in some of the top end cases, close to 4000
- Grandmaster and Challenger are meant to be very difficult to achieve and it’s intended to be challenging to get there (in the same way that an Emerald player should look at Diamond and feel like it’s going to be difficult to achieve)
- At the same time, we’ve heard your feedback that hitting these ranks feels too daunting and grindy (though there is an expectation that the peak ranks in a game are going to require more dedication to keep, we need to strike a good sweet spot here)
The future
- Us making climbing at apex less daunting caused us to add Grandmaster several years ago and we’re nearing some of those feels now; the skill gaps in Apex are getting too big
- In some regions also, the number of Grandmaster/Challenger slots being too low for how big their region is is also contributing to the cutoffs being very high (EUW being a notable example) -> curious on thoughts on increasing this
- We might also reconsider the top end of how much LP you can gain per win, but need to be considerate of how much this incentivizes smurfing
- Changes to systems like these are a natural part of League being a long-lived game and having growing player skills over time
Thank you for being patient with us as we fix all the things and we’ll continue to work to make the top of ladder climbing experience the best it can be.
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@doaenel @RiotPhroxzon 100%, i have very little motivation to ever attempt grandmaster when it is inevitably at 800+.
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"Are you saying that a GM player is as good as Viper and can reach him if they get lucky?"
Let me explain.
If Viper is better than almost all the players and he has inflated gains, then what chance do most regular players have if their gains are even worse than his?
This is the part I'm trying to make you understand.
People use MMR and the LP system in general as a way of making their climbing process easier, the more that the higher ranks become unattainable, the more players will end up trying to game the MMR system even harder in order to try and climb to compete with the best.
As for the difference between the plat - diamond climb and the Master+ one, the difference between the two is that the Platinum player always has consistent checkpoints and feels like he's making improvement, no matter how small, the more he plays.
One day his rank says Plat 4, the next it says Plat 2, the next it says Emerald, and so on.
The fact that Master+ players do not get to experience this for what is approaching THOUSANDS of LP at a time just makes it so everything feels meaningless.
"If a GM player is not going to go on the skill journey to be as good as the rank1 player, why should they have a realistic expectation that they can hit rank1?"
Because everything works in bite-size pieces.
First, you're masters.
Then, you're Grandmaster.
Then, you're Challenger.
Then, you're Rank 1.
If Masters feels too far away from GM, then people will want to game the MMR system to make it easier to attain.
If Rank 1 feels too far away from Challenger, then people will want to game the MMR system to make it easier to attain.
You need to understand that you are, without a doubt, causing the FEELING among the high elo community that they are FORCED to smurf if they want to be able to climb because on even gains the climb feels almost impossible.
I can assure you that whatever harm is done to a small subset of the ranked playerbase causing them to not play anymore because they don't like that their 500 LP number got reset to 0 is vastly outweighed by the harm you're preventing from causing thousands of players to endlessly smurf for the next 7 months.
Remember that smurfing is a symptom of the Master+ MMR system and how it's worked for years, and if you're able to finally, once and for all address it you will setup League of Legends for greatness in the years to come.
Also, please take into account what I said about limiting duo games once you're Challenger+. No matter how good the MMR system and matchmaking system is, 2 top 10 players being able to duo 100% of their games will ruin competitive integrity no matter what.
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@SirrSleepless @lucasvoicefan @wealary_V2 his account is literally all porn not even worth interacting with, guy genuinely has no idea what a real woman looks like
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@lucasvoicefan @knavefull @wealary_V2 You want half dragon lady as a purple korean doll face? Do you hear yourself ?
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@lucasvoicefan @wealary_V2 ur retweeting suggestive anime art on your zero follower twitter account and calling fictional women woke get a grip on your decaying life you lowelo no networth random I could buy your entire sub 10 dollar gdp village today if I wanted to get out of my mentions
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@knavefull @wealary_V2 plays jg
says i tweet porn when its just anime artwork
Probably met epstein
its joever for you i heard in dagistan their hiring
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@lucasvoicefan @wealary_V2 always the people that retweet porn that critique women the most ijbol
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@wealary_V2 she just looks like a californian XD weird facial structure
doesnt look very female etc
prolly mutilated themselves for validation you know
the whole blue Pill kinda shtick
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@WayOfTheTempest I have gotten it once ever going from emerald to master on an account
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@Fruity_Nat "i got it i got i got it i got i got it!!!! uhhh.... i dont got it" ahh play
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me entering korea soloq
Damn Nature You Scary@AmazingSights
A breeding bull entering the farm full of cows
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