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@kos_kov

Kyiv 🇺🇦@Everton’ian and іnfectious diseases doctor іn clinical trials world. ненавиджу росію. help Ukrainian army: https://t.co/HbuHMxTgfp

Kyiv, Ukraine Katılım Ocak 2017
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський
Yesterday, the President of Poland noted that the Order of the White Eagle is not an ordinary award. It is a symbol of the highest trust of the Republic of Poland. It signifies a special bond with the Polish state and the special gratitude of the Polish People. Such a symbol requires not only merit, but also respect for the values that form the foundation of our community. Therefore, if it is considered that this special symbol may remain with Catherine II, Benito Mussolini, and Gerhard Schröder, then we in Ukraine will not argue with that. Ukraine is grateful to the Polish People for their support and cooperation, which play a significant role in the struggle for our and your independence from Russia. Ukraine never forgets solidarity and understands that cooperation between states and peoples in our region is one of the tangible security guarantees for Ukrainians and for each neighboring state. Ukraine will continue to defend itself in this war unleashed by Russia, and we will undoubtedly achieve a dignified peace. Ukraine is grateful to all peoples, states, and leaders who will continue to stand with us in the defense of freedom and who, together with Ukraine, will serve as guarantors of postwar peace in Europe and a new, real security. Ukraine will remain open to all meaningful formats of engagement with Poland in order to try to avoid conflicting interpretations of the difficult and painful chapters of our shared past and to ensure proper respect for all innocent victims of the 20th century. And Ukrainians are doing everything in our power to ensure that Europe does not suffer defeat in this century. I am proud of our people and of EVERY Ukrainian warrior – of the millions of Ukrainian men and women who deserve unquestionable respect for the heroism the Ukrainian People have shown in defending themselves against Russian aggression. We believed that the Order of the White Eagle, awarded in 2023, was meant for the Ukrainian People and our army. That is what was said at the time. Today, I sent the Order back to the President of Poland. I believe the future will confirm the respect Ukrainians deserve. Glory to Ukraine!
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🐿️RudaWiewióraZkitą✝️❤️‍🔥🇵🇱
@grntmedia Ви нічого не навчилися з історії, ви просто дурний народ, і тому ваша Україна довго не протримається. Ви безповоротно втратили в нас друга. Ми вам більше не допоможемо. Ідіть на хуй ❗ нацистські бандерівці ❗🖕
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ҐРУНТ@grntmedia·
Від Ордена Білого Орла відмовився також і Леонід Кучма. Кучма наголосив на тому, що історія важлива, але минуле не може бути важливішим за майбутнє, особливо на тлі спільної загрози зі боку рф.
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Alfonzo Gonzalez
Alfonzo Gonzalez@Alfonzo10432880·
@kos_kov @ZelenskyyUa because there was rouge minority trying to take over portions of polish land. Ukraine banned russian even on lands that were historically russian. Did poland commit genocide comparable to UPA one?
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Bary Trzebio
Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
I'm talking to a real person who copies everything into AI and is so lazy that they won't even retype the response, he just paste screenshots. You've exhausted me, man. I haven't had such an unproductive conversation in a long time. Maybe it's because of the language barrier, or maybe not.
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щоденщина@kos_kov·
@BartomiejTrzeb1 @ZelenskyyUa You are talking to me, a real person. And you are ignoring the fact, that Poland tried to perform etnogenocide. You ignore it and ignore my text that it’s bad and no one in Ukraine is proud of that.Go be a failed russian empire somewhere else and pray actual Russians won’t attack
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Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
What's the point of our conversation if I'm talking to Chatbot? Do you really not understand what the problem is? Axes, children on fences, 100,000 civilian victims, all carried out under orders - a systematic ethnic cleansing campaign. On top of that, it was disguised as a spontaneous peasant movement. In my view, that puts the perpetrators on the same level as Hitler, and no - Poles did not do the same thing.
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Alfonzo Gonzalez
Alfonzo Gonzalez@Alfonzo10432880·
@kos_kov @ZelenskyyUa There was no ukraine prior to 1991. Polish nobelty Chmielnicki invented it as he wanted to carve his own kingom out of poland and convinced bunch of serfy peasants that they are different nation. These lands were polish for a millenia. How can poland be colonizing its own lands?
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Bary Trzebio
Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
I'd like to be able to have a discussion with you, but this feels like talking to an ex. Poles did bad things - I acknowledge that. However, we did not organize a systematic genocide against Ukrainians, whereas that is exactly what the UPA did. The Germans - also wrong - carried out systematic genocide against Jews, Poles, and Ukrainians. On that point, you can all give each other a high five. Now tell me, how does any of that relate to the fact that your president honors those people and names a military unit after them? Incidentally, a unit that we've probably contributed more money to than you have yourselves
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щоденщина@kos_kov·
@grom1945 @Ragnar_Tammert @ZelenskyyUa Upa was fighting for independent Ukraine against oppressors of ukrainians — like nazis and soviets. That’s why. No one in Ukraine thinks upa is cool because they fought poles. Sorry, you are not the center of the universe.
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Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
@kos_kov @ZelenskyyUa An absolute ignoramus. And I can't stand looking at those AI-generated texts of yours. It's like arguing with ChatGPT
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щоденщина@kos_kov·
@BartomiejTrzeb1 @ZelenskyyUa Why are you inventing new terms? system of territorial domination? What’s that? Did Germans have the same system? Generalplan ost is the same system? But one is polish, so it’s ok, but German is bad? Look, if you prevent Ukrainians from birth by colonizing the land its the same
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Bary Trzebio
Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
“Yeah, it's ok, it's fine, ignore all that” - that's your ower interpretation, not mine. Genocide and a system of territorial domination are two completely different things. No matter how hard someone tries, it's impossible to have a substantive discussion. And that pretty much explains why you glorify those animals.
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Marl@MalBinBin·
@kos_kov @Prezes1337 @_qbaty @ZelenskyyUa Na tych polskich terenach mieszkało trochę Ukraińców, którzy podejmowali działania terrorystyczne i palili polskie gospodarstwa - w dwa miesiące spalili ich prawie dwieście. Dlatego Polska musiała podjąć działania. Teraz też mieszka was dużo Polsce i też lubicie podpalać.
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щоденщина@kos_kov·
@BartomiejTrzeb1 @ZelenskyyUa And I’m sorry for upa actions. No one in Ukraine wants to do that to poles. But when poles are doing much more systemic genocide, on government level — it’s ok, it’s fine, no one cares. Shame.
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Bary Trzebio
Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
@kos_kov @ZelenskyyUa Yes, I confirm myster AI. In the past, this was called partitioning a country. Don't compare that to people who hacked children with axes and impaled them on stakes. What is it that you don't understand? UPA - systematic genocide.
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щоденщина@kos_kov·
@BartomiejTrzeb1 @ZelenskyyUa Poles are amazing. AI says “Second Polish Republic did discrimination, state violence, and deepening ethnic tensions, genocide” and poles like “yeah, it’s ok, it’s fine, ignore all that”. So when will poland destroy all pilsudskiy statues? UPA was a response.
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Bary Trzebio
Bary Trzebio@BartomiejTrzeb1·
And AI prompt from my side: The policy of the Second Polish Republic toward Ukrainians was often repressive, assimilationist, and short-sighted, particularly during the 1930 pacification campaign, but it was not equivalent to the actions of the UPA in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. The Sanation government used state institutions for control, intimidation, and restricting the Ukrainian nationalist movement. The UPA, on the other hand, carried out actions aimed at physically removing the Polish civilian population from disputed territories. The guilt of the Second Polish Republic lay in discrimination, state violence, and deepening ethnic tensions. The guilt of the UPA lay in mass murders of civilians and ethnic cleansing. Therefore, it is reasonable to argue that the policies of the Second Polish Republic contributed to the radicalization of some Ukrainian circles, but it is wrong to draw a moral equivalence between the two phenomena. This is not: “Poles did the same thing to Ukrainians.” Rather: Poland, as a state, carried out repressive policies against part of the Ukrainian minority, while the UPA carried out mass killings of Polish civilians.
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