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@kryvdnyk

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Vladyslav
Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL A fucking democracy. Both china and France do neo colonialism, yet China more severe at it. Yet, if we have a case of France, so why then communist regime, do it like way more worse and inhumane. Not that I would excuse the French ofc.
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@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Every time there is communist country, there is strong repression, colonialism and inhumane treatment of people. While it's literally not happening anymore w capitalist countries. The reason UAE is exploitating foreign workers is not because it's capitalist, it's because it's not
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Although they don't die as much in China now, which is a good thing, although north Korea still exists. I can also refer to communist China before as we know it today, and wonderful policies they practiced. Like shooting birds.
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Main reason why people in UK died, because of its imperial regime, we can see today, people rarely oppressed in capitalism countries, while any country that practice communism, be it north korea or China, share same patterns of oppression
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL There isn't any capitalist country that can match amount of killed people by soviets and nazis.
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Reekoil ☭@cinderien·
@kryvdnyk @TSwanyIRL They did not genocide more people, all capitalist countries also waged wars, I guess then a pro capitalist talking about genocides is also an oxymoron?
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Reekoil ☭@cinderien·
@kryvdnyk @TSwanyIRL the "humane side" was dropped from the beginning, I think it was a given when we didn't bring it up during Poland, this specific thread of the conversation is about whether the communists defeated the country doing the holocausts
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL And burning crops, it's just old as a world soviet propaganda. Even russians dont run ur takes anymore, cuz its literally a movitone. No police brutality though can much repression in soviet union, it's so retarded claim. And "Executed Renaissance" was not addressed at all
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Reekoil ☭@cinderien·
@kryvdnyk @TSwanyIRL Famines occured in capitalists regimes, famines are a commonality in industrialising societies, capitalist societies had brutal police, holodomor was a famine caused by kulaks burning the crops. All the reasons you've presented can be used to say pro capitalists shouldn't either
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Vladyslav
Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Than there is amount of people just repressed, killed or sent to Gulag and then they die on site. And then there is war, and how soldiers there were treated. When initiatives, were dismissed and people were just thrown at meat grinder. Only russian have a term "разведка боем"
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Never at the scale of the communist famines, and not with brutality of industriazation. During 5 year plan and industrialization, people were dying on site, in such vast amounts, no capitalism regime at its worse, could match the amount of dead people. And it's only like half.
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL And my point is, that u glorifying regime that waged wars, same as Germany, only on smaller scale, and in the end it's a same shithole as nazi was. Only killed more people. Hence why u talking about genocide w that symbol is oxymoron
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Reekoil ☭@cinderien·
@kryvdnyk @TSwanyIRL The allies traded with the nazis up until they were at war with Germany, similarly, the USSR traded with Germany up until they were at war with them, that's literally my original point. "The war" began for the USSR after barbarossa.
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Vladyslav
Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL And it was never a about the trade prior to war, but i am literally talking about trade during the war, and during the moment they started it.
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Reason for excluding communists from speaking about genocide is "Mass Famines & Collectivization", "The Great Terror", "The Gulag System", "Holodomor", "Executed Renaissance" and many more
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL And it worth noting how we completely drop humane side, like invading other countries bad, so if it's Finland that doesn't hold the weight, it's OK by commies ig
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL And it's not like u stop ur trade only because it's at war with another country, u literally started war by splitting Poland and expanding trade.
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Vladyslav@kryvdnyk·
@cinderien @TSwanyIRL Now we r at the stage of whitewashing Molotov-Ribbentrop. Which as I guessed u clueless about. Since we think it's only Poland split, because it's not like ussr done trade with nazis, how could it. And in a mean time, finalnd probably hated us too, so why not invade it aswell.
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