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@ZekeDaFreak21 @AJ9ysc @UofBasketball It does…there’s only 3 levels to scoring…the rim, middy and the 3. If he shot 48 from middy…and 37 from 3…but shoots 48 from the field…you add all the numbers up and divide by 3 to get 48. Yk 2 of the categories the only one left is the rim

@laygup @AJ9ysc @UofBasketball Cuz it didn’t make sense What he shot from mid range don’t equal total FG %

MJ shot 48.9% on 1,202 (!?!) midrange attempts in 1997

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Neither things I said are longevity. His last playoff game winner was 2018😭. He was 34. Best g7 performer isn’t longevity either…it’s just best game 7 performer😭. And what’s your evidence of him taking peds? You gonna bring up the chael story? That leads no where?

@laygup @uscfan981 Longevity argument again? Lebron has the most of everything, good and bad, because he's played so long by taking PEDs. Longevity works both ways, don't use it when arguign in favor of Lebron, it's too easily disproven.

Y’all agree?

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Selections? But the guy with 6 was less of a defender. Never once was close to getting dpoy either might I add. And he’s an elite scorer on all levels shooting sub 50% from the field odd

@laygup @uscfan981 Jerry West faced tougher competition and was CLUTCH, which Lebron wasn't. West was also an elite scorer on all levels, and was an elite defender his entire career, and was the Lakers best playmaker even led the lead in assists before.

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 And yet…they’re all much higher? Interesting. So it’s ok for just some people to make mistakes? And no 04 Kobe just played terrible. 04 is Kobe’s 2011 bron series. It’s literally no different

@laygup @uscfan981 Kobe 04 - Shaq fat & Malone old/injured 08 - Celtics superteam Kareem 74 - Havlicek clutch G7 83 - Moses overpowered him 89 - 42 yrs old Kareem & Magic 84 - Bird was clutch in G7 Magic 91 - MJ lol Bird 85 - inefficient shot selections & too many TOs 87 - missed clutch shots

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Around for ages. Also LeBron went to a team who hadn’t been past the first round since 06. Nor did he lose to the heat. Interesting it’s brons fault for losing while putting up amazing numbers but Jerry west is just a ok to lose while having less rings in the

@laygup @uscfan981 Lebron's finals losses: 2007 - inefficient shooting & poor leadership, got swept 2011 - outscored by Jason Terry 2014 - couldn't adapt to Kawhi's defensive pressure 2015 - played hero ball 2017 & 2018 - Lebron gave KD the precedent to form superteams when Lebron went to Miami

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Pass the ball to? With love and kyrie no longer there? Delly? Iman? Jr? Pls tell me who?😭 hilarious you say most losses weren’t west fault, yet when bron almost won fmvp while losing you blame him. Odd. 2017 and 18 Bron didn’t set the precedent for one, super teams have been-

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Ok so in 2007…he shot inefficiently because his teammates couldn’t shoot. He had no one to pass to, that’s from Bruce Bowen btw. 2011 as I said, his fault. 2014…he avg more than wade and bosh combined, on 57/50/79 splits. Idk how that’s his fault but ig😭. 15…who is he to-

@WilliamTweet_ @NBA__Courtside And none of what you’ve said has been true…so where do we go now?

@laygup @NBA__Courtside None of what you say hides the fact that Bronny James is a BUM

Shannon Sharpe says this is why Michael Jordan kept his mouth shut because you see what happens with LeBron-Memphis fallout: “Y’all criticize him because he didn’t take a stand on nothing. LeBron is taking stands and a lot of these guys didn’t take stands and you beat them up. So when the man is honest, so in other words, if you like what he’s saying, Yes. Yes. That’s what I’m talking about. But if you don’t, shut your mouth. You can’t have it both ways. You just can’t, people. You can’t. I understood what he was talking about. He said, “Bro I’m 41. I don’t want to play in there.” (Via @NightcapShow_)

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Again…that was because of bill is what I’m saying. Bob, john, sharman and tom were great. I won’t take that from them, but they didn’t play together the entire time for one. The talent pool was limited, so yes the best team’s players were getting selected is what I’m saying

@laygup @uscfan981 You need to brush up on your basketball history my friend. 1960s Celtics were STACKED, literally 9 HOFs. Bob Cousy - MVP & All-NBA & elite def John Havlicek - FMVP, All-NBA & All-Def Bill Sharman, Tom Heinsohn & Sam Jones - All-NBA Tom Sanders - All-Def Bailey Howell - All-Star

This is putting Steph’s 402 season into perspective for me. It’s insane he did that a decade ago😭😭😭

@AJ9ysc @ZekeDaFreak21 @UofBasketball Naw bro you good. They just love mj so much they just lost the ability to comprehend. What’s worse is he knows how percentages work, explained it to you and still didn’t get it😭

@laygup @ZekeDaFreak21 @UofBasketball Thank you. Like i thought i was tripping and messing up what i was trying to say😹

@ZekeDaFreak21 @AJ9ysc @UofBasketball SO YK HOW IT WORKS AND STILL DIDNT GET WHAT HE WAS SAYING????😭😭😭😭

@AJ9ysc @UofBasketball Even then it shows no correlation. Ur saying “He shot this % from mid range? Then that means he was an ass finisher” Yk career FG % consists of midrange %, finishing %, and 3pt% They’re all included I get if u were making a joke but I don’t see the comedic angle lol

@ZekeDaFreak21 @AJ9ysc @UofBasketball Range, at that percentage…he’d have to be around 50% at the rim. It’s basic math gang. But he’s saying it isn’t true because no way mj shot 50% at the rim. You so worried about defending mj you not even reading it correctly 😭

@AJ9ysc @UofBasketball “Factually wasn’t a good finisher” Brother if ur gonna say where’s the data to back that up? And its been mentioned by others already that shot tracking data that season isn’t the most reliable, not because of the players themselves tho

@ZekeDaFreak21 @AJ9ysc @UofBasketball Gang he’s saying if he shot that much and made them at that percentage…he statistically would’ve had to suck at the rim. He’s not saying mj does, but that this stat is wrong because mj was good at the rim. He shot 48% from the field and 37 from 3. If he made that many at the mid

@WilliamTweet_ @NBA__Courtside He was elite in hs. I said nothing wrong. Being top 20 in his class before his heart problems. Shaq’s son was on the same path, but his heart problems were too severe for him to continue playing at all

@laygup @NBA__Courtside You saying Bronny James is elite proves to me that you don’t know shit about basketball

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Right so this isn’t the greatest cause you aren’t including entire body of work😭. You don’t value the hardest accolade to achieve. Interesting

@laygup @uscfan981 Again I never assigned any value to regular season MVP. Shaq had a very narrow window of elite defense and also got swept nearly 6 times from the postseason before Kobe became a starter. He's only as high as he is because of those FMVPs and a high scoring peak.

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Wait so why is dr.J so high? He has a short window in the nba, not elite defensively atp, Hakeem had a small window of winning as well yet he’s so high?

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 Curry, magic and bird. Have a total of 3 all defensive selections…all from bird 😭. Yet over bron? With less fmvp as well

@laygup @uscfan981 Name a single inconsistency I haven't addressed that you presented?

@Joe_7_OSRS @uscfan981 You just said it was a major factor, and I asked if you would call your top 5 elite playmakers. Not if that was the only way to be an elite offensive player

@laygup @uscfan981 No you don't have to be an elite playmaker to be an elite offensive player. You can be an elite offensive player if you are an elite playmaker though. They aren't mutually exclusive.