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NMSMASH DISCORD Join here: https://t.co/zGYfE7eWay Predjudice Equality. https://t.co/o4zrIFZ4zz I still have a jump don't think you've killed me just yet

Katılım Ağustos 2010
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Fumetsu No Tora 🍔⛓️@Fumetsu_No_Tora·
Legality is of great value for social cohesion but it's a poor standard for fairness and morality. To call someone evil for breaking the law is silly. If they're evil it's because of the underlying reason a given law exists in the first place. Morality is in the heart of the individual who knows right from wrong. You'd be in pieces on the shelves if companies could get away with it. They get the fire on their ass and stay within the line or they don't get the dollar. You're not dealing with a human whose morality is ambiguous or unknown to you, you're dealing with an entity for which morality is not even a factor to begin with.
F-22(キノコGAMES)☁🌼 ☁👑@ayukinoko

どんなに欲しくても手に入らないなら諦める、それが大人だし犯罪に手を染めてまで手に入れたいとは思わない。それは言い訳のしようがない悪だからだ。 我慢が出来ないのはケツの青いガキだけだ。勿論ガキだから許される事はないが。

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ᏗፚᏋᎴᎥ@Lucas_Azedi·
Explicar pirataria para japoneses é engraçado porque você pode argumentar que milhões de crianças pobres só podiam jogar video game por jogos piratas e eles vão responder que essas crianças são ladrões comparáveis a quem rouba pão de padaria e que elas não deviam jogar os jogos
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@shoes_god @BonsaiiBoii Shutting down fan games/mods and smash tournaments are pretty unethical to me. As long as no one is selling anything. They're being unnecessarily controlling and harmful to the communities that love their games.
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Warchief-Bignose@shoes_god·
@linkstheman12 @BonsaiiBoii Going to fully disagree. There's nothing unethical about what Nintendo has done up to now. You and I simply not liking them doesn't make them unethical. In fact, within the context of Japanese law, Nintendo is doing the bare minimum to keep control of their main assets.
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Bonsai Boi@BonsaiiBoii·
Something worth pointing out is the the major Japanese corporations you know by name are generally speaking, relatively decent, especially to Japan. Sony & Nintendo despite their flaws, are far more ethical companies than the likes of their western counterparts.
バブルの頂点 タウリン2000mg背面跳び@sasori_yokuneru

NieR Reincarnation プライベートサーバーの問題ってさ、日本以外のほとんどの人が著作権法とか商標法、不正競争防止法っていう法的概念を知らないし問題だと思ってないらしい。 彼らは義賊の素晴らしい行為だと言っていて、興味深いんだよね。 文化の違いだよ。

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鬼井佐間@7ka_no_oniisama·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama Then try to make a good way to buy it in your country. If it's hard to do by yourself, find the people that agree with you to do it together. Not just complain why japanese don't sell it. make it to become possible. Not just piracy.
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なる@nalltama·
「ゲームが欲しい」 あそこ(日本)で売ってますよ 「嫌だ、買いたくない。遠い。だから盗む。悪いのは俺の近所で売らなかったお前らだ」 「食べ物が欲しい」 あそこ(スーパー)で売ってますよ 「嫌だ、買いたくない。遠い。だから盗む。悪いのは俺の近所で売らなかったお前らだ」
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@BENKEI440209191 @nalltama A thieves money is still green. 🤷 Take it or don't. Sell it online. Sell it in a store. People will buy it.
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処す@BENKEI440209191·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama 会社も泥棒だらけの国で店を出したく無いから流通の失敗というより選択の結果だな、ただ物が無ければ盗めないって考えた企業よりも泥棒の意地汚さが勝っただけの話さ
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Belmonteiro@belmonteir0o·
aí cai a barreira do idioma, a gente sai correndo de braços abertos dizendo "olá, amigos japoneses" e descobre que um bando deles é assim:
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@BENKEI440209191 @nalltama As far as I'm concerned the only persons standards we fell short of are yours. I think piracy is normal and a consequence of distribution failures.
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処す@BENKEI440209191·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama いいや、俺は普通の人間だよ、勝手に人間の基準を上げるなよ、お前らが基準を勝手に下回ったハゲタカってだけさ
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@BENKEI440209191 @nalltama If you think that people that want to enjoy something harmlessly are vultures and hyenas then you must be a saint.
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処す@BENKEI440209191·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama 自分を人間だと思ってるハゲタカ、ハイエナが沢山存在しているのがよくわかった有意義な時間だったよ、ありがとうな
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@fool44922022 @nalltama Why would anyone stop there. If it's not hurting anybody and I'm not taking sales away from the company then what's wrong with pirating it. They don't sell it to me and I have to buy it from some guy who doesn't even share the profits with the company, then why not pirate?
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fool@fool44922022·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama そこまで金を払って遊ぶ価値がないと思うなら遊ぶべきではないですね。
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なる@nalltama·
PSPのソフトか。 アマゾンで買って家に届けてもらう、それだけで正規ルートで購入できたね。 逆の立場で言おう。 XboxOneが発売された時、日本は最初の発売国に含まれなかった。 だから俺はアメリカのアマゾンで購入して日本まで送ってもらったよ。 グローバルシッピング、アメリカ国外への発送のの対象外だったから、輸入代行業者を使ったよ。 分かるか? 日本でしか売ってないものは、日本から買えばいいんだ。日本から送ってもらってもいいし、日本までお前が買いに来てもいい。いくらでも正規の方法はある。 ああ、分かりやすい話をしよう。 お前は日々の食料や日用品を買いにスーパーマーケットに行くよね? 「なぜ自分の家まで無料で持ってきてくれないんだ!家まで持ってきたなら買ってやるのに!家まで持ってこないなら盗んでやる!」とでも言うのか? それをしているのがお前だ。
Capucha 🇵🇸@JJChurches

@nalltama Cool story bro, Now check out this sick Katekyo Hitman Reborn: Battle Arena ROM i just downloaded cause there is none and will never be a legal way for me to play it because you refuse to sell it to me across the ocean cause the creators decided they didnt want my money.

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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@BENKEI440209191 @nalltama I appreciate the mentality and I think it's honorable. Unfortunately you're not gonna find many westerners that perceive piracy as that bad of an act. No guilt, no shame. People talk about it openly here and it's not controversial. I think it's a matter of service and supply. 🤷
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処す@BENKEI440209191·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama 日本人は儒教が歴史の中にあるから道徳心と法を同一視する傾向がある、話の争点が違うのさ、盗みの理由をこれはプラットフォームが整備されて無いから仕方ないと堂々と話すんじゃなく、罪悪感を感じて恥ずべき行為だと認識した上で仕方なく行っっているかという姿勢の話だよ、兄弟
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@LionessOGTfL Exact opposite in the U.S. Gamers here complain about games and game companies. It's kinda like complaining about a family member though "I love this stuff so I want it to be good and enjoyable" reasonable feelings from someone who spends a lot of money and time on something.
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らいおねす@LionessOGTfL·
最近のニーア関係の炎上を見て気づいたけど、日本人のオタクの中でもゲーマー/ゲームオタクは他種のオタクとはかなり別物に近い 他の日本人のオタク、例えば鉄オタは鉄道会社、車オタは車メーカーによく文句を言うけど、ゲーマーはほとんど文句を言わない マジでゲーム会社を擁護どころか信仰している
Mizutamari💧• Puddle Yokai@MizutamariVT

One of the interesting arguments the JP side has had against Stop Killing Games is that to make an offline version or would cost 50% to 100% more of the games original budget to do it. I'm not sure if this is just a blatant lie, genuine incompetence or total ignorance. We have guys with no access to the source code able to reverse engineer servers with, relatively speaking, minimal effort. If Joe Everyman can do it for 0 dollars in his basement without the nessecary information, how come companies that actually have that information apparently can't do?

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One of the interesting arguments the JP side has had against Stop Killing Games is that to make an offline version or would cost 50% to 100% more of the games original budget to do it. I'm not sure if this is just a blatant lie, genuine incompetence or total ignorance. We have guys with no access to the source code able to reverse engineer servers with, relatively speaking, minimal effort. If Joe Everyman can do it for 0 dollars in his basement without the nessecary information, how come companies that actually have that information apparently can't do?
青猫@AonekoSS

「Stop Killing Games」のまとめ。 なんかいっぱい絡まれたから海外ニキと対話(レスバじゃないよw)した結果、要求のレベルが3段階くらいあるのが分かった。 サ終してもオフラインで動くようにしろ派: いまカリフォルニア州法に提出されてるライン。 メーカーにとっては対応コスト高すぎなんや。どないすんねん…… サーバー立てる為にソースを公開しろ派: つまり俺らでサーバー立ててホスティングするわって話。 ソースコードなんていう知財と企業秘密の塊をほいほい公開できるわけないやろアホタレって返した。(もう少し優しい言い方) 勝手に解析してサーバー立てるから黙認しろ派: いまニーアのプライベートサーバーで盛り上がってる界隈かな。 サーバー自体が法に触れるかは難しいけど、そのサーバーに繋ぐよう改造したアプリを撒くなら、それは紛れもなく「海賊版」なんだよね。 あと共通点として。 ゲームをオフライン版に改修するコストがほぼゼロだと思ってるっぽい。 ゲームは「購入」して「所有」するものという認識で、ライブサービスを受けている自覚がない。 大手メーカーをすげー嫌ってる。(でもゲームは買ってプレイしている) だいたいこんな感じかな。 英語とスペイン語が多くて、英語話者もヨーロッパのアカウントが多い感じだった。

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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@BENKEI440209191 @nalltama The reality is Americans see law and piracy differently than our Japanese brothers. Just understand that this is not an act of thievery in our eyes but more so an act of Innocent enjoyment.
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処す@BENKEI440209191·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama 日本人は払う場所が無いなら買わない、もしくは10倍払ってでも現地に行ってでも買うか自分で翻訳するって言ってるだろ、手に入らないものを手に入れる為に違法性がある手段が選択肢に入る時点で話にならないよ、欲しけりゃ売ってやるから日本に買いにこいよ、俺もアメリカに行って買ってやるから
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
@BENKEI440209191 @nalltama I think its pretty crazy that you guys have tons of Americans saying "I will pay for your product! But i cant!" and instead of understanding that its not an act of maliciousness. You assume we like stealing! We just want it to make sense and it doesn't. Sell us the games!
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処す@BENKEI440209191·
@linkstheman12 @nalltama 法で禁止されてるとかじゃないんだよ、倫理観や道徳の話だよ、店主が居なくて商品が外に置いてあっても盗む日本人は少ないし、落とした財布の多くは警察を介して持ち主の手元に戻るのが日本だ、お前らは所詮は泥棒、下賎なハイエナや禿鷹が図々しくも人の言葉を喋ることがXの自動翻訳でよく理解できた
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
A waste? I don't understand? Either people are stealing your product and you cant stop it or you sell it to people who want to buy it lowering a large amount of piracy. Steam takes a portion of the profits as a distributor, If you want to distribute yourself you can however you miss out on customers and exposure.
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NintaiLink@linkstheman12·
No i am not. I love Japanese games and would give them the money if i could. This culture difference here is shocking. As Americans why would i give some guy who has nothing to do with Nintendo a ridiculous amount of money for a Nintendo game? They do not get any profits. Ive bought most consoles and many games from Nintendo. If they mad it available easily i would buy it.
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