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"South Vietnam requested America for help."
Who created South Vietnam, Daniel?
Tell me. Take your time. Go look it up. I'll wait.
South Vietnam was not a country.
It was a administrative line drawn at the 17th parallel by the 1954 Geneva Accords as a temporary demarcation pending a national reunification election in 1956.
It was never intended to be a permanent border.
It was never intended to be two countries.
Every party at Geneva understood this. The documents say this explicitly.
The United States prevented that election from happening.
Why? Eisenhower wrote it himself, in his own memoir: American intelligence estimated Hồ Chí Minh would win roughly 80 percent of the vote.
So Washington cancelled the election, installed Ngô Đình Diệm, a Catholic mandarin who had spent years living in New Jersey, as the leader of a "country" that had been invented specifically to prevent the Vietnamese people from choosing their own government.
Then that invented country, run by an American-installed leader, "requested American help."
Do you understand what you just said? You used a puppet requesting help from its puppeteer as your moral justification.
That's not sovereignty. That's a ventriloquist act. And you're applauding the dummy for having opinions.
And Hồ Chí Minh "started this war with Chinese communist help"?
Hồ Chí Minh was writing to Woodrow Wilson in 1919, at the Paris Peace Conference, appealing for Vietnamese independence based on Wilson's own Fourteen Points.
Wilson never responded.
The man believed in American ideals before most Americans were willing to apply them to non-white people.
In 1945, when he declared Vietnamese independence, he opened the declaration with direct quotes from the American Declaration of Independence.
He reached out to the United States for support.
The OSS, the precursor to the CIA, had officers working alongside the Việt Minh against the Japanese. They liked Hồ Chí Minh. Their field reports described him as a nationalist first.
But Washington made a choice.
France was a European ally that needed to be kept stable for NATO.
So America funded France's attempt to re-colonize Vietnam.
Eighty percent of the cost of the French Indochina War was paid by U.S. taxpayers.
The CIA was operating in Vietnam before most Americans had ever heard of the place. Edward Lansdale was running psychological operations and building paramilitary networks in the early 1950s.
The Phoenix Program, which systematically tortured and assassinated tens of thousands of Vietnamese civilians, was a CIA operation.
So when you say Hồ Chí Minh started it with outside help, you are describing America's role more accurately than his.
"You should be grateful your enemies were Americans."
This is the single most revealing sentence in your reply. Genuinely. Frame it out and look at it.
You are telling the Vietnamese people to be grateful for how they were destroyed.
Grateful for 3 million dead.
Grateful for Agent Orange that is still producing disabled children in 2026.
Grateful for Mỹ Lai.
Grateful for the bombing of hospitals.
Grateful for the embargo that strangled reconstruction for nineteen years after the war ended.
Because it could have been worse.
This is the logic of the abuser who says "you should be grateful I didn't hit you harder."
No. We are not grateful.
We won.
Gratitude goes in the other direction.
If anyone should be reflecting quietly on how things went, it is not the Vietnamese.
You said "don't start a war with Americans."
We didn't start anything.
We were a colonized people who wanted our country back.
First from the French, who had occupied us for nearly a century.
Then from the Americans, who funded the French, then replaced them when the French lost.
We didn't come to America. America came to us.
We didn't choose this. We chose to survive it.
And we did.
That's not a threat. That's not aggression. That's just history.
History that already happened.
History that ended one way and not the other.
You can look up which way on April 30, 1975.
