jeez_louise
108 posts
THEY FINALLY KISSED THEY FINALLY KISSED THEY FINALLY KISSED
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@GafaAarc @sabjooning @shurakasbigtoe It's not just Americans speaking on it. I’ve seen South Asian and Arab readers voice that they felt uncomfortable/offended by those specific aesthetic choices. Opinions are split within the communities themselves, so it’s fair for people to talk about flaws even if others love it
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@sabjooning @manhwareadera @shurakasbigtoe People say that it is common in Orientalism to mix Hindu and Arab cultures. But that's purely aesthetic; the other characteristics of Orientalism don't appear in the manhwa. I saw Indian and Arab users say they loved Bwat's works; Americans shouldn't speak for other cultures
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let me get this straight:
because BWAT includes interracial couples in her manhwas, that makes her racist?
or is the real issue that you don’t like seeing tanned characters represented in prominent roles?
i’m trying to understand,because those are two very different criticisms.
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@sabjooning @shurakasbigtoe Creating an "amalgamation" of Eastern cultures can reduce rich, real-world traditions down into generic, exoticized tropes rather than giving them proper depth. It’s just about recognizing those slight flaws while still enjoying the story for what it is.
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@manhwareadera @shurakasbigtoe Can I ask what orientalist stereotypes are you referring to? I’m starting to wonder if ppl are saying this specifically bc a Korean author created fictional characters/settings inspired by an amalgamation of other cultures so I wanna make sure I’m not missing something
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@ume_luvv Clearly, the author wasn’t careful enough if they still managed to offend someone else’s culture.
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@manhwareadera La autora es asiática (oriental) y usó diversidad para su propia base en su propio reino de FANTASÍA, hay obras, series y películas asiáticas llenas de fantasía similar creadas por los mismos asiáticos, BWAT siempre fue cuidadosa y la historia fue bien recibida en Asia.
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La historia basándose en diversas culturas orientales.
El fan gringo más inteligente:
(Denuncien el post por favor, sabemos cómo Busy suele recibir este tipo de cosas:((( )
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@SkyGarone @shurakasbigtoe Because orientalism isn’t just taking inspiration from other cultures, it’s the distortion and misrepresentation of it.
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@manhwareadera @shurakasbigtoe Amiga, todo el medio está lleno de orientalismos, americanismos, etc. No solo los manejas BL, ha Sido algo que se a utilizado inumerablemente en literatura antigua, clásica, moderna, cine, etc. Porque el que se tome inspiración de una época y cultura en un manwha si está mal?
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@manhwareadera @MikyPechy No los veo funando películas series de negros enamorándose de blancos por favor ni siquiera dejaron que se desarrollarán la historia si se preocupan tanto por el "racismo " hagan marchas y campañas en la vida real y no andén llorando por twt por un dibujo
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JAXX-nim, please, reconsider this forced decision. Sit with your legal and management team, and after thorough discussion, release the work at least for the Korean market. Your fans will gladly read it on the Korean platform. Backing away from bullies only gives them strength. 🙏🏻
🤠JAXX🤠@jaxx_s2
황야의 노래 (Song of the wasteland) 판매 중단에 관하여 알려드립니다. 책임을 무겁게 느끼고 앞으로 신중한 작품활동을 하고자 자의로 결정한 바입니다. 더 나은 작업물로 찾아뵙겠습니다. To readers, I humbly accept the criticism that several scenes in Episode 1 contained disrespectful depictions of other cultures and people. Even if the direction and themes of the story differ from what you may be concerned about, I have decided not to launch the work, as the fundamental limitations of this project's premise are clear. I believe this situation has revealed my complacent attitude toward human rights sensitivity when handling a specific era and setting, and that my storytelling lacked sufficient care and nuance. I am deeply ashamed. In my eagerness to focus on the characters, I failed to fully recognize that I was replicating problematic historical contexts and representational tropes found in past works. I also deeply resonate with the criticism that the characterization in question was not something to be treated lightly within a genre like BL. What I had told myself was passion for the storiesl, I now recognize as arrogance. I was not as prepared or as careful as this story required me to be. I apologize for any displeasure caused to you, and I will carry this reflection with me as I continue. Sincierly, JAXX 독자님들께. 1화의 몇 장면에서 타문화와 타인에 대한 무례한 묘사가 보인다는 비판을 겸허히 받아들입니다. 앞으로의 전개나 주제가 걱정하시는 바와 다르다고 해도, 이 프로젝트의 설정 자체에 근본적 한계가 명확하기에, 작품은 런칭하지 않는 것으로 결정했습니다. 이번 일로 특정 시대와 배경을 다루는 데 있어 저의 안일한 인권 감수성이 드러났다고 생각하며, 연출에서의 섬세함 또한 부족했다고 생각합니다. 무척 부끄럽습니다. 주인공에 초점을 맞춰 그린다는 생각에 몰입하다 보니 역사적 맥락과 그간 창작물들이 잘못해 온 표현 방식을 답습했다는 부분을 제대로 인지하지 못했습니다. 장르물에서 가볍게 다룰만한 캐릭터 설정이 아니라는 지적에도 깊이 공감했습니다. 소재에 대한 욕심이 결국 오만함으로 표출된 것 같아 반성하며 자신을 돌아보고 있습니다. 작업물에 대한 비판은 무거운 마음으로 수용하겠습니다. 감상에 불편을 드려 죄송합니다. 잭스 드림
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no shade but yall need to stop arguing with these ppl and bring out the jars
່͏@niggaayaoi
The hate I have in my heart for you niggas is unfathomable
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@lgbtanime Same. I do think her work is very good, and I don’t think it’s at all bad to take the criticism, especially if it’s constructive.
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I love bwat’s work but if people have criticism they can I mean? like i’m a huge fan of blossoms of the white night but im not gonna deny the concerns ppl have about it like it’s good to be critical with your reads and understand it or call it out I mean
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@wiwilovebl @pretty4lies @monairgaya9455 We shouldn't be comparing disgusting topics just to excuse racism. Two things can be bad at the same time. You’re completely stripping the nuance from this conversation. You can acknowledge that fetishizing chattel slavery is wrong without trying to deflect to other stories.
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@manhwareadera @pretty4lies @monairgaya9455 en Latinoamérica no son tan ligeros con esos temas, q mas les daba q una historia iba de negros si hay historias PEORES que q esa, los q lloráis por todo son los estadounidenses con una simple historia.
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@well0vy @pretty4lies @monairgaya9455 I know it's really difficult for you to use basic reading comprehension skills since you're clearly illiterate, so I'm gonna suggest you break down the words before you try to read the sentence.
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@saltiiico @MikyPechy Bitch slavery was real there is no fiction in that
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@manhwareadera @MikyPechy ¿Si quiera entendiste las historia? Eres estúpido, nunca fomento el racismo y si luego dices que hay otros paneles que hacen burla a tus gustos pues dejame decirte es una historia malditamente FICTICIA
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@twincest101 @tamaescence Yes, unfortunately. It carries a lot of stereotypes and orientalist views. Otherwise, I’d say it’s a very good manhwa.
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while we're at it, get this orientalist, racist, colorist bullshit off of all platforms as well. i cant believe some of these have physical releases, what the actual hell
chisu 🥖@tamaescence
this should happen more often with racist manhwas, its shocking that this is the first time the community has pushed back to the extent of the story getting discontinued. stop babying grown authors & telling people that theyre being "too woke" over racism & white supremacy
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@ISuney They’re clearly uneducated and don't even know the difference between Black people and the specific African rulers who participated in the Atlantic slave trade. Jesus…
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@pretty4lies @monairgaya9455 You claim you’re fighting the racist system irl but you’re literally weeping over the cancellation of a comic that fetishizes chattel slavery. The math isn't mathing. You don't give a damn about fighting racism if you're begging for a master-slave dynamic to "develop."
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