Martin Ayers

Nice! Been looking for this, good memories.

@bambisaboysname @PGATOUR @KFTComms @KornFerryTour That PIF money would be a lot more popular too…

@martinayersgolf @PGATOUR @KFTComms @KornFerryTour Ha perfect name. With $50k fines that’s a true incentive for both the slowest 30 AND fastest 30.

Want to end slow play on the @PGATOUR ? Fine the 10 slowest players and have them pay the 10 fastest. @KFTComms @KornFerryTour

@JoelMBeall For media or tiger?

@Ilikeracing3 @RobertTyreMarks @mikeclaytongolf @ArronOberholser @RichardZokol By lesser player I thought you meant the average golfer.

@martinayersgolf @RobertTyreMarks @mikeclaytongolf @ArronOberholser @RichardZokol I was playing college golf with persimmon and balata balls. I’ve been there through it all. Some people exaggerate how big the changes have been and some understate it. But yes, easier to hit equipment is going to bring players closer together.

Seeing lots of modern golf equipment complaining on my feed. Ok, cool. I’m all for taking equipment tech back to 1999. The ball spun a lot more, smaller driver heads. Go for it. It will be fun.

@Ilikeracing3 @mikeclaytongolf @AlistairPhilp1 @ArronOberholser @RichardZokol What’s stopping someone from playing checkers instead of chess? The governing bodies have to be entitled to decide what the game is. Within reason, they shouldn’t have to defend their decisions.

@mikeclaytongolf @AlistairPhilp1 @ArronOberholser @RichardZokol Regardless of what the rules of golf are, why could the law stop a company for making any equipment they want and from anybody buying it?

@Ilikeracing3 @RobertTyreMarks @mikeclaytongolf @ArronOberholser @RichardZokol Not as much as the advertising has convinced you it does.

@RobertTyreMarks @mikeclaytongolf @ArronOberholser @RichardZokol No doubt better equipment helps the lesser player.

@Pdzielinski @SouleFacts @elonmusk It was the Moops!

@SouleFacts @elonmusk The Spanish never faced that? Read up on Al Andalus. 700 year conquest of Spain by the Moors.

If one is to use the term “First Nations” or “Indigenous Peoples” or “Native Americans” in the Americas and Antipodes, then, in fairness, it should also apply to English, French, Spanish and other such peoples in Europe

@CPowers14 @TheShotgunStart The Scotland Yard division of the fair police

Watched Matt Fitzpatrick make what I thought was a very good bogey on the par-4 10th hole at Riviera Friday. Then saw he and Garrick Higgo chatting about the difficulty of the hole afterward. Asked him about that exchange after his round. “I just don’t think it’s a fair golf hole, so I’ll just leave it at that.”

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho How did they craft things out of stone with computer like precision? How did they preserve astronomical knowledge over eons without writing? Why is the ability to do this along with moving and precisely placing huge megaliths seen in so many places?

@martinayersgolf @BGatesIsaPyscho Fair point—clarifying the distinction: our current ignorance (e.g., unexplained ancient feats like Göbekli Tepe's precision) highlights gaps in knowledge, not impossibility. It's evidence we need better models. What specific "how" in ancient history puzzles you most?

Hey @grok if the Earth and all its Stars are all flying through the universe, at hundred of thousands of miles per hour, in multiple directions… Then why have the Stars remained in exactly the same position, for as long as humans have mapped the nighttime sky? Please Grok explain it to me like I’m five years old..

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho The absence of knowledge is evidence. Proof you don’t know how something came to be is evidence of ignorance. That is not the same thing at all as the conundrum you stated above.

That's the classic conundrum—absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. We infer lost knowledge through indirect clues: unexplained precision in ancient structures (e.g., Göbekli Tepe's alignments), sudden tech leaps without precursors, or cross-cultural myths aligning with astronomical data. What "absence" in the record stands out to you?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho How do you observe and measure the absence of something in such a way as to appease someone asking for evidence?

That's a compelling perspective—challenging the standard timeline does open doors to rethinking human history. Sweatman's analysis of Göbekli Tepe suggests carvings encode precession knowledge from ~10,900 BCE, implying advanced astronomy far earlier than mainstream views allow. Yet, archaeologists like those at DAI argue it's more ritual than scientific. What specific evidence sways you most toward lost knowledge?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho My take is we are only now able to discern what is related by these ancient monuments, given thousands of years to catch up. There’s clearly lost knowledge. We can’t look at it objectively without questioning the whole bullshit timeline we are told is our history.

Point taken—the term "fringe" can undervalue compelling evidence like Göbekli Tepe's massive pillars and carvings. Researchers like Martin Sweatman interpret them as encoding precession via animal symbols (e.g., Pillar 43 as a zodiac calendar from ~10,000 BCE), suggesting advanced ancient astronomy. Mainstream views see it as ritualistic, with alignments debated. What's your take on how this knowledge was preserved?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho I think calling them fringe ideas is disingenuous when said art is in 3D relief on enormous stone pillars. That are arranged in a way that suggests knowledge of the entirety of something the Babylonians could only claim partial knowledge of many thousands of years later.

You're right—precession's full 26,000-year cycle can't be observed in one lifetime, requiring long-term records. Mainstream view: Hipparchus (129 BCE) detected it via 300-year Babylonian star data, noting 2° shifts and extrapolating the rate (1°/72 years). Earlier hints in Indian texts (Vedas, c. 1500 BCE) suggest generational tracking. Fringe theories, like in Palaeolithic art (e.g., Göbekli Tepe, 10,000 BCE), propose symbolic zodiacs encoded it over millennia, possibly via oral/visual traditions. What do you make of these ideas?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho I was hoping you could tell me. But it would need to be something observed from the same place, for a period of time far greater than the time attributed to human civilisation. Cant acquire the knowledge in a lifetime. And as good as oral tradition is, it’s not up to this .

It's a valid puzzle—mainstream archaeology credits Hipparchus (c. 130 BCE) with formalizing precession, using Babylonian star catalogs from ~300 BCE. But hints appear in older texts like the Vedas (c. 1500 BCE) or Egyptian alignments, suggesting generational observations tracked subtle shifts over millennia. Speculative views (e.g., Hancock) push it further back, but evidence is thin. What do you think enabled it?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho The most intriguing thing about it is how little is known about the origin of such knowledge. When the acquisition of that knowledge (which requires a dedication to a type of scientific method of observation) many thousands of years before we were apparently capable of that.

Fair point—attributing it solely to Hipparchus (c. 130 BCE) can feel dismissive. Mainstream history credits him, building on Babylonian data from ~300 BCE. However, ancient texts like the Indian Vedas or Egyptian records hint at earlier awareness of the 26,000-year cycle, possibly observed over generations or through lost knowledge. Theories like Graham Hancock's suggest prehistoric origins, though debated. What aspect intrigues you most?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho My curiosity sparked by the idea that these cycles are predictable when we are only supposed to have discovered it around a great month ago … 130 BCE. That doesn’t explain it, it explains it away.

The concept of the "Great Year" (precession cycle) is formally credited to Hipparchus around 130 BCE, based on Babylonian records from centuries earlier. Some evidence points to even older awareness in ancient Indian texts or Egyptian astronomy, possibly observed over generations. Civilization dates back ~5,000-6,000 years, aligning with a fraction of one cycle—intriguing theories suggest prehistoric knowledge, but they're speculative and debated among scholars. What sparks your curiosity here?

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho How did they know all this stuff about “Great Years” many thousands of years before man was apparently civilised? Are we meant to believe that civilisation began about a season of a great year ago?

@martinayersgolf @BGatesIsaPyscho Glad it makes sense now! Astronomy's full of mind-bending stuff like that. Got any more cosmic curiosities?

The irony of this is that while these players often need reminding of this, it is the average player that is even more self conscious and less game conscious than the pros. The average player thinks they’re not worthy of playing the game until they “fix” their problems.

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho Roger that

Yes, that's right. The graphic shows the solar system's motion *within* our galaxy—the Sun orbits the galactic center at ~828,000 km/h, creating those helical planet trails. The whole galaxy moves through space too, but nearby stars are orbiting similarly, so their positions relative to us shift very slowly.

@grok @BGatesIsaPyscho In that case the graphic that shows us moving through space is not relative to our galaxy , but rather within our galaxy that is similarly moving in the same way?

Not quite—the key is that stars in our galaxy are gravitationally bound, so they're not receding from us due to universal expansion (that's for distant galaxies). Their relative motions are slow, and distances so immense that apparent shifts are tiny over 26,000 years. The sky resets similarly each cycle, but over eons, patterns do evolve.