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WE MIGHT BE COOKING #Worlds2026

@HommyAG Is your ethical red line is purely procedural? If private corporations fund a tournament in a state bombing civilians, that's fine, but if it's the state funding it, it's a boycott? You're just auditing funding models rather than taking a stand against atrocity

@HommyAG By framing it in such a way that a state must be actively supporting the tourney, you are inherently protecting hegemonic powers i.e. the US. The US doesnt need to explicitly fund esports events for its reputation because it already has overwhelming cultural and economic hegemony

Caedrel doing this completely performative "morals" nonsense for a regulated betting sponsor is extremely funny since he openly takes saudi sportswashing money and his fans are okay with that but draw the line at licensed and regulated sportsbooks...?

@HommyAG It is already incredibly telling that you won't reply to this question, but here is what I have to say on the matter. You can't morally consume this sport, sorry

@HommyAG Ah so you would support Worlds being independently hosted in Russia/Israel/Saudi Arabia if the respective governments were not funding it, yes?

@Kazan932813 @HommyAG bringing worlds to the US brings tourism, economic stimulus, and cultural "prestige." It signals the US is a "normal," acceptable place to gather, thereby implicitly endorsing or at least ignoring its recent military atrocities. Is this not the critique of sportswashing?

@Kazan932813 @HommyAG I think it matters to be consistent: drawing the line exactly at "direct state sponsorship" is very convenient. It allows u to claim the moral high ground against Saudi while comfortably continuing to consume esports products in NA without having to reckon w/ US foreign policy

@Kazan932813 @HommyAG I agree, is that your hard line? State sponsorship? To me, that feels a bit arbitrary since the end result is the same. Sure the sponsorship angle is more actively malignant, but one could argue that independently choosing to host on controversial soil is worse on Riot's part

@maxcspl @HommyAG I think it would, it would still be less bad than covering a tournament directly organized by the israeli government.

@Kazan932813 @HommyAG You can argue it's not as bad as a conscious effort, sure, but it still is tacit endorsement. Would you not see Riot choosing to host a tournament in Israel as a problematic tacit endorsement of the safety, visitability, and normality of Israel?

@maxcspl @HommyAG It's not but even if it was, covering a riot tournament knowking they endorsed all of what the USA government does still isn't as bad as directly taking money from the government to cover THEIR competition.

@Chickensalt1234 @HommyAG So you believe this relatively small city in Southern Iran consciously choose to build a school *near* a military compound at least 25 years ago, before the US had ever attacked Iranian soil, with the explicit intention of it being a "human shield?" You sincerely believe that?

@maxcspl @HommyAG The islamic regime has existed for well over 3decades. You really love running defense for terrorists who would take your life for not being the same religion as them. Incredibly weird

@Kazan932813 @HommyAG Why does it not hold the same moral implications? Is Riot choosing to host a tournament in a given country not a tacit endorsement of that country's safety, normality, acceptability, etc.?

@maxcspl @HommyAG Who cares what I'm fine with the fact is it does not hold the same moral implications.

@jockeskit @HommyAG So if Riot independently chose to host world's in saudi arabia without state support, you would be fine with it?

@maxcspl @HommyAG Worlds is famously run by the US government. Right. No its not. Meanwhile EWC is funded directly by the Saudi government. Worst whataboutism ever.

@Kazan932813 @HommyAG So if Riot independently chose to host world's in saudi arabia without state support, you would be fine with it?

@maxcspl @HommyAG Still have to explain in 2026 the difference between a tournament organized BY a bad government and a tournament organized in a country WITH a bad government.

@supHezi @HommyAG then we are not talking about the same thing because I don't care about Caedrel, I care about the broad outrage against EWC while World's is being hosted in a country that is far more actively evil than Saudi. My point is that there is no moral consumption of the sport

@maxcspl @HommyAG Again, I’m not sure if you’re trolling or not. We are talking about a specific scenario in which an individual who obviously is willing to sell his “morals” if there is enough money involved is just using this opportunity to gain good PR. wtf does riot have to do with this?

@Chickensalt1234 @HommyAG Your framing is far more actively conspiratorial. I'm looking at historical imagery, this school and compound has existed since at least 2001, likely much earlier. You really think this school was consciously built to be a "human shield" for a neighboring military compound?

@maxcspl @HommyAG There is a difference between a school on a military base and a school placed directly above weaponry. Im not defending the murder of 120kids. I’m calling you out in your dishonest framing of the situation which you know youre doing.

@supHezi @HommyAG Again, I don't care about Caedrel. If Riot independently chose to host a tournament in Saudi, Israel, whatever country you find most detestable, would you support boycotts against the tournament, even if the governments did not fund the tourney? Would you attack casters going?

@maxcspl @HommyAG I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not lmao. Corporations are not individuals. I can 100% hold an individual to “higher” moral standards than a corporation. Caedral didn’t cast EWC, citing “moral issues”, and then they offered him enough money and he streamed it. He is a bozo.

@supHezi @HommyAG So you would support Riot independently choosing to host worlds in Israel or Saudi Arabia if the state wasn't sponsoring it? I don't really care about Caedrel, I am more frustrated at the clear double standard of the league community

@maxcspl @HommyAG You’re doing mental gymnastics to defend your favorite streamer who doesn’t even know you exist. If we boycotted countries due to their governments actions, all of Europe would be blacklisted. State sponsored white washing and hosting an event in a country are not the same.

@Chickensalt1234 @HommyAG Why is the United States allowed to operate 161 public schools on military installations, but Iran cannot build a school next to one? There was a direct hit on that school in Iran. Why are you defending the murder of 120 kids?

@maxcspl @HommyAG The islamic regime is a terrorist group, they were the ones who were attacked and they were also the ones who placed hospitals/schools ontop of military bases. They were also the ones systematically killing their citizens the last few decades. You think this way due to ignorance

@HommyAG Does it really matter who is funding it? "use sport as a means to improve their reputation by distracting or diverting attention away from activities considered by others as controversial or unethical" Doesn't hosting worlds in the US portray America as a normal country?

@maxcspl Is Worlds or any Riot event in North America directly sponsored by the American government and advertised as such? It can't be this difficult to see the difference No one is saying the USA is good, in case that wasn't obvious