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@mcquito
Interesting stuff. Some science, some economics, some politics.
dallas Katılım Temmuz 2009
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@SidTheArgent No. Just doing stuff on my phone with AI.
And in my head.
You can probably find more qualified (and younger and more energetic😀) folks to run simulations.
But I’m always here to discuss.😀
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@mcquito I actually have some orientation videos I made in NotebookLM on some subjects I think are real important to getting the abstracts into formalized language ... I will try to get something put together for you if you're interested. Are you running simulations on real world data?
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@SidTheArgent 3)…Maybe your deeper understanding will help with and complement my descriptions. We’ll see😀
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@SidTheArgent 2) I’ve decided to stop focusing on going deeper. Instead I’m going to focus on better descriptions not deeper ones. That will include the role of coherence….
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@SidTheArgent For me, that is what I mean by God.
And if God could be explained He wouldn’t be God.
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@mcquito My philosophy answers the 'why' with raw compulsion ... an irreducible primal force that just is, no further regress, no transcendence needed.
Inherent unrest at the spectral floor.
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@SidTheArgent Exactly.
In my opinion, that will always be the case. Every why question generates another one.
Infinite regress.
At some point the ultimate answer transcends logic.
Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep asking why. It’s up to each of us to decide when to stop.
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That doesn't explain why there is information/contrast/distinction to begin with.
It just reframes the problem: we can’t observe pure zero because zero carries no information (no structure, no memory, no observer). Fair enough.
But the deeper question remains untouched ... why is there any information-bearing state at all, rather than absolute nothing?
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@SidTheArgent 3) ….That makes it less a proof and more an information anthropic principle.
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@SidTheArgent 2) Without information, there is no coherence, memory, time, or observer.
So the point is not that reality “refuses” zero.
It is that any reality capable of being structured or observed must already be an information-bearing state…
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate The issue becomes verifiability. I’m starting to believe it’s a more productive use of time to accept that coherence is near fundamental based on tangible observations. And focus on the ramifications in the reality we can observe.
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@mcquito @KateXGate I think I would argue it's always logic but not always objective. We can map things to memory that do not exist ... make "rational to the data" decisions and it be fatal.
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Score one for the “intelligence is emergent” team.
The first hints of cognition may not appear as “thought” at all but as geometry learning how to organize itself.
Intelligence may emerge wherever sufficiently rich relational geometry begins recursively organizing information flow.
Not programmed. Formed.
Mathelirium@mathelirium
A Neural Network Can Grow New Neurons Where It Is Confused? In 1994, Bernd Fritzke published A Growing Neural Gas Network Learns Topologies. He introduced a network that starts small, follows incoming data, and inserts new neurons where its error is highest. In the animation, the fog is the drifting data. The glowing nodes are neurons. The fibers are learned connections. The network grows into a living skeleton of the manifold.
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate …This may be the wall some of the mystical traditions reached when they started employing illogical koans, the Tao, etc.
Perhaps (just hypothesizing) at that point the answers lie in personal experience not logic
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate 1)I think this is where normal explanation starts to break down.
We are trying to describe something before “before” has meaning.
So the origin of coherence may need a different paradigm than ordinary cause and effect….
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate I think this is where normal explanation starts to break down.
We are trying to describe something before “before” has meaning.
So the origin of coherence may need a different paradigm than ordinary cause and effect.
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate 2)…
That creates a feedback loop across scale.
So the persistent wells may be the ones embedded in a self-similar hierarchy.
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate 1) Yes, self similar nesting could be the structural enforcer
A single coherence well may be fragile
If coherence geometry repeats across scales, each level can stabilize the next
Microcoherence feeds macro-coherence
Macro-coherence constrains microcoherence
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate 3) …I think persistence requires special structure, but I have not proven what supplies it.
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@SidTheArgent @KateXGate 2) Minimum phase may be one such rule because it links amplitude and phase and may impose order.
But then I still have to explain why minimum phase is fundamental.
So the honest answer is: I don’t know yet.
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