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I don’t care for AI too tough … but recognize it as a tool like any other. Playing around today, I was able to produce this “pod cast” based on some of my writings on Islam and America. Enjoy - youtu.be/HFH7U1e6Qng?si…

@Sassafrass_84 Clearly she has never heard of a Burkini. It’s a swim suite. No more gross than her underwear bikini…in fact, less so, if we want to be honest. I wonder if she has the same issue with a scuba suit?

A woman shared her experience at a private pool in Shelby Township, Michigan. A woman in a full burqa entered the water, violating the club’s swimwear rules. After reporting it, she learned lifeguards had received multiple similar complaints. The situation worsened when her 9-year-old son was insulted by a 13-year-old girl (daughter of a non-burqa-wearing Arabic woman). She confronted the girl and called out the double standard: religious freedom shouldn’t override sanitary policies. Frustrated, she plans to cancel her membership unless the club enforces the rules fairly for everyone. These people literally break rules. Treat Americans like garbage. We shouldn't have to put up with this. Maybe Burqas should be banned in America. What do you think?

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly 1.) no talking points. My paper, my conversation, my words. 2.) the fact that he wasn’t Hebrew is the evidence. 3.) there were three - not two - mentioned by Jesus ﷺ and John. Elijah (John the Baptist) The Messiah (Jesus) The Prophet to Come (?) 4.) addressed in the paper.

@message2the @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Also can you show me how the Spirit of truth which is supposedly Muhammad was known by the disciples and lived in them according to Jesus? Learn for yourself and stop parroting Dawah talking points 2/2

RAPID EXCHANGE on the Injeel Vs Gospels Mike Jones @InspiringPhilos Vs @HassanShibly DEBATE CLIP

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly 2/2 Therein three are mentioned: Elijah, the Messiah & the prophet to come. But there are also the verses of the Comforter to Come. And before you reject it out of pocket - here is a 6 page paper outlining my position: adviceforchange.wordpress.com/wp-content/upl…

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Most scholars aren’t translating it. And many translators go with the strange translation of “mentioned”. However, rather than giving a list of versus for you to reject, let’s just focus on the NT. First & foremost, we find mention in the story of a John the Baptist ﷺ 1/2

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Maktooban (My thumb hit the wrong key…this was an operator error, can’t blame spellcheck on this one.)

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Makrooban also means “decreed”. And yet, we can say, with confidence, that some of what the Messiah Jesus ﷺ taught was recorded in writing … including the fact that the coming of the Prophet ﷺ was decreed.

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly I am not relying upon a translation … but if I were, there are other translations. Rather, in the Arabic, what I am reading is that the unlettered Prophet ﷺ was decreed in the Torah and the Good News. And it is still found to this day in the teachings of the OT & NT.

@message2the @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Do you not understand basic reading and comprehension? Surah 7:157 says that the Jews and Christians will find the unlettered prophet WRITTEN in the Torah and Injeel. How can the name of the unlettered prophet be written if the Injeel was only orated as you claim?

@Shot2Pieces @AnhamBill @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly I don’t hold on to it at all. You are making claims here about myself & Muslims based solely on your own bias. It isnt canonical. Yet, neither are other books that were heavily relied upon by the early church. As for it being later - there is a difference of scholarly opinion.

@message2the @AnhamBill @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly The gospel of Thomas is not canonical and a later gospel - every credible scholar agrees with this. You hold onto it because Mohammed heard stories from the gnostics that spread in the deserts rejected by the mainstream and put it in the Koran.

@ManteawPkay @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly The claim that Islam depends upon falsehood is itself a falsehood. Islam demands rationale. It is a rational faith, not a blind faith…it is not a “mystery” where one “just has to believe”. Your claims here all fall short under basic scrutiny.

@message2the @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Without lies Islam dies. The Injeel being a book is implied many times. Eg, people of the Gospel should “judge by what Allah has revealed therein” (5:47), Christians are described as possessing the Injil, and Muhammad is said to be mentioned “in the Torah and the Injil” (7:157).

@JonFavale @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Islam doesn’t say that the Messiah, Jesus ﷺ, was given “a book”. It says that a scripture was revealed to him ﷺ. And your position is actually very much in line with christian thought … but it ignores his public and private teachings.

@message2the @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly I don’t believe he was given a book at all. But from the Islam perspective he was given a book. There’s nothing that says the “book” he was given wouldn’t be a biography about his life.

@AnhamBill @Shot2Pieces @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly You are just deteriorating further & further. You know what you read … but I can just about guarantee you read it on social media posted by some unknown person with an unknown source. There are zero contradictions in the Qur’an. As are your accusations against the Prophet ﷺ.

@message2the @Shot2Pieces @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly I know what I read. I know you weirdos have to try to explain away the contradictions and gross pedophilia of your illiterate monster of a "prophet."

@zephyr_wild @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly 2/2 But by all means, you have made a claim. You claim Islam is probably false. I argue the very opposite, it is provably true. And more, Christianity is provably a contradiction of Jesus’ ﷺ own teachings. So, state your proof and I’ll bring mine.

@zephyr_wild @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly That’s an interesting claim since th Qur’an forbids any forced conversion and Christianity is the religion with an actual deep history of forced conversion. As for myself - I entered Islam here in America 30 years ago … no force at all. So … so much for that theory. 1/2

@Magnus_9_IOI @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly In the future. I would encourage you to either not write so much in a tweet … or at least break up your ideas so it isn’t dense. When there are oversized blocks of writing such as this most folk generally don’t even give it the time of day. Just some advice.

You aren't wrong in that what Jesus taught wasn't a book. But, that's where your correctness ends. Do you know what Gospel even mean? It means Good News. Hence why the Gospels mostly cover the parts of Jesus's life when he was actually teaching. Injeel is a transliteration of the word Evangelion, which lo and behold also means Good News. The Gospels are a lot more than "just biographical compilations" they are compilations of the oral scripture taught by Jesus, according to the four writers. In fact the Gospel of Mark opens as follows: "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God." (Some translations use "The Good News" instead of gospel") And Luke 1 opens with affirming what has been the oral tradition of the time, according to those witnessed it and the custodians of the Word. As such, these books are more than just a biography, and clearly witnesses the Word. The Quran still has a problem. Allah says to Mohammed that if he doubts what's revealed to him that he should ask the people of the book - ie the Jews and Christians. But, according to you no such book exists. Why would Allah refer to a book, and not "those who know the oral tradition"? And why not warn that there are corrupt scriptures that the Christians hold? I would think that would be quite valuable to know. Especially since we have Gospels that's older than the birth of Mohammed, thus either the corruption had already happened, or Allah were happy with what was written down about what Jesus had said. So, either the Injeel is the Gosple according to Mark, Matthew, Luke and John, or it is not. But, you have no way of saying if these books aren't the Injeel according to Jesus. By both the Quran and Bible, it's more likely that these books are indeed the Injeel.

@Magnus_9_IOI @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly 2/2 3.) Luke admits he was simply writing a history for his paying patron …and Acts. 5.) the Qur’an says to ask the Christians about a very specific matter. 6.) the conflating of matters leads to your confusion. 7.) false premises lead you to false conclusions.

@Magnus_9_IOI @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly I am completely against unsolicited pamphleteering … but I still skimmed through it. 1.) I already said … the entire time … the Injeel is “The Good News”. 2.) it is NOT a translation. That is the name. 1/2

@zephyr_wild @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly I absolutely agree with you… …and I would argue this is why Islam remains the fastest growing religion here & around the world. But instead of talking in cryptics, and “rebuking” people on social media platforms, Perhaps there is something of substance you’d like to discuss.

@message2the @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Everyone else can see what the spiritually blind refuse to see.

@AnhamBill @Shot2Pieces @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly You have actually. You have educated me on how much people don’t actually know anything about Islam; how much, despite their ignorance, they remain confident; Andhow much they are pleased in their confident ignorance to the point they will assert their errors as truth.

@message2the @Shot2Pieces @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly Yes I've educated you

@JonFavale @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly The Injeel is the Good News revealed to Jesus ﷺ … it was what he taught to the people. He didn’t teach a biography.

@message2the @ModernDayDebate @InspiringPhilos @HassanShibly There’s nothing that says the Injeel couldn’t be a biography btw 😆