Michael
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@mike_pen8 LM is clear in playmaking, but CR7 is the better goalscorer.
Its 70 30 to messi in playmaking. Its 60/40 to cr7 in goalscoring
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Messi has 5 world cup cup KO goals in 11 starts.
Ronaldo has 0 world cup KO goals in 5 starts.
CR7 has 67 ucl KO goals in 85 games.
Messi has 49 ucl KO goals in 77 games.
Michael@mike_pen8
@yoshiboy998988 Insecure is hand picking matches that should count towards an overall analysis, which is what youve done here Equally silly when LM fans use WCs KOs to bash CR 👍⚽
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@yoshiboy998988 As you can imagine @yoshiboy998988 I would switch this around to the goalscoring being close, but LM clear in playmaking 😅🤝
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@mike_pen8 at playmaking only, not close in terms of goalscoring tho
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@yoshiboy998988 Passing & dribbling did though 🧐
Also, some stats are/have been backdated
CR no slouch in either department, particularly dribbling - but LM exceeds, clear from watching
CR adapting his game to become best goalscoring CF ever is truly unique👏
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all of that and LM still isn't a better or more effective/productive big game player
Michael@mike_pen8
@yoshiboy998988 @yeezusleft @bloomkral @imzispoms So glad you value goal contributions, just emphasises the quality gap LM has over CR👍⚽ Not that it's needed, given how obviously superior LMs ball carrying, & selection, timing, range & weight of pass is in deeper areas of the pitch
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@yoshiboy998988 CR has never, at any stage of his career, been close to Messi in passing or dribbling standards ⚽👌
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@mike_pen8 not really, cos cr7 was forced to change his playstyle from 2013 onwards, and stats such as dribbles and BCC are relevant since 2020 ish
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I know this is unpopular, but it will always be unattractive for a grown man to play video games.
Some women might be understanding or pretend like they don’t care that you spend hours playing, but they do.
It is extremely unattractive to women and will never not be. 🤷🏼♀️
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@yoshiboy998988 Incorrect - 'Primarily' they should do whatever they need to for their team to score more than the opposition, sorry
If a player can be in Top 3 for goals ever, & create far more chances for the others than anyone else - that's puts them ahead of gls only👍⚽
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@mike_pen8 nope, forwards should score primarily, and cr7 is the best at that
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@yoshiboy998988 It's ridiculous to isolate to such few games, CR deserves way better than what his international tournament record suggests - I'm fair both ways, LM is better all around, that's OK 👍
CR reinvention as a CF was one of most incredible adaptations ever - definitely puts him Top5👌
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@yoshiboy998988 Yes, amazing/atg midfielders are different to forwards, this shows that football shouldn't be reduced to just goals because other vital things need to happen in other areas of the pitch - thank for demonstrating my point so clearly 👍
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@mike_pen8 lampard never stepped up in the biggest games like zz, and midfielders are different to forwards
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@yoshiboy998988 You need to win qualifiers and group stage games else you don't get to KO rounds to be able to score in them👍
A good point of reference is CR in Euro GS in 2016👏
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@mike_pen8 no one cares about those or will remember qualifiers, and players like haaland, lewa, suarez, and neymar can do that too, and mbappe ofc
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@yoshiboy998988 In reality, goals are product of what happens all over the pitch & how teams function - on gls Lampard is better than ZZ, which is silly😬
That said, I'm OK with CR being assessed a better glscrer than LM, not in same league as overall player tho, I'm afraid👍
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@mike_pen8 goals win you games not assists, not dribbles, not fancy passes and aesthetics, goals win games, cr7 is the best goalscorer OAT.
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@yoshiboy998988 It is if you isolate goals as the metric, that's why you've done it 👍⚽
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@mike_pen8 Not really the UCL is the biggest stage in club football. CR7 has the most finals goals, most semi finals goals, most quarter finals goal, most knockout stage goals, and is the all-time top scorer of the UCL. CR7 is the GOAT UCL player, and it is not close.
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@yoshiboy998988 Yeah, this is silly, desperate stuff - LM clearly the biggest factor in Argentinas success (and near misses)
Eliminating vast swathes of careers to corner a stat CR is superior in, is text book insecurity (which really isn't necessary given he's a Top 5 ever player🙌👏⚽)
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@mike_pen8 no its not, and what is there to bash? Messi before getting a system built for him scored 0 World cup KO goals.
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Messi scored 2 ucl final goals - both vs united in 2009 and 2011
Messi also only scored 6 goals vs elite teams in the ucl semis, 2 in the ucl el clasico in 2011, 2 vs liverpool in 2019, and 2 vs bayern in the 14/15 treble szn.
Why are u so insecure @mike_pen8
Michael@mike_pen8
@yoshiboy998988 Just utter, utter insecurity when so carefully selecting matches & gls that should be considered Don't worry, everyone sensible knows CR is outrageously brilliant player & goalscorer - it's just clear Messi is better & can do more 👏
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@yoshiboy998988 Insecure is hand picking matches that should count towards an overall analysis, which is what youve done here
Equally silly when LM fans use WCs KOs to bash CR 👍⚽
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CR7 scored 5 UCL final goals vs elite teams.
2 vs Atletico, 2 vs Juventus, 1 vs Chelsea.
CR7 also has 13 UCL semi final goals vs elite sides.
4 vs Bayern, 3 vs Atletico, 2 vs Arsenal, 1 vs Milan, 1 vs Dortmund.
He is better big game player.
Michael@mike_pen8
@yoshiboy998988 Just utter, utter insecurity when so carefully selecting matches & gls that should be considered Don't worry, everyone sensible knows CR is outrageously brilliant player & goalscorer - it's just clear Messi is better & can do more 👏
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@yoshiboy998988 Just utter, utter insecurity when so carefully selecting matches & gls that should be considered
Don't worry, everyone sensible knows CR is outrageously brilliant player & goalscorer - it's just clear Messi is better & can do more 👏
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