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@mingimangimong So that's why the official SNS didn't repost anything. They also didn't know that he was going to an official event. But Atiny managed to start hating without waiting for all the information as always.

OH JONGHO WAS MANAGER-LESS DURING THE DAZED EVENT 😭

@pomsaeng_pomsaa What? He got a personal invitation from a friend it wasn't an official schedule arranged through the company. KQ doesn't need to be present in every part of their lives.

kq what

@blckcatwcc Exactly. Any company that shares information on internal and external business communication so easily is a liability for a big artist to work with!

So you WANT atz to be paid less? For flying halfway across the globe and performing in 35+ °C Italian summer heat? A company doesn't control ticket prices, it should only care about getting the best conditions and the most money for its artists' work.

@wdzfairy @fixonsang As a company you always want the most money the organizer is willing to pay for your artist. That's directly related to how much money the members themselves will be paid. We don't even know if KQ's fees are higher or if organizer's trying to capitalize on the demand for K-pop.

@wdzfairy @fixonsang It's way more likely that KQ while negotiating wasn't even informed how much the other artists were paid and how much the tickets for their performances would be in comparison. It's not in atz's interest for KQ to try and lower festivals tickets prices by demanding a lower fee.

i just know kq is behind this pricing, really disrespectful towards eu atiny btw

@fixonsang @wdzfairy If Kq's check was too expensive then the organisers wouldn't have invited them in the first place It's up to the organisers to decide what artists they can afford at the ticket price point they are willing to establish Besides, the higher the appearance fee the better for Ateez

@wdzfairy surely the organizers made them expensive bc kq’s check might be too much for them but then they couldve balance out the cost of every ticket OR negotiate better OR not sign with kq for atz at all. as much as i dislike kq this is NOT their fault

@GameCat16 @SparkysTech You know people who respond like that to efforts in restricting sexualization of minors sound like they're hiding something actually illegal on their harddrives... Because if you have nothing to hide it doesn't make you panic like this.

@mimi8m1t @SparkysTech This tweet depicts minors in sexual positions. You're going to British jail, mate.

So i think people need to reexamine laws of other country’s in detail before defending “my free speech”

@GameCat16 @SparkysTech "the ability to be abused" Well it's pretty hard to abuse a law that says don't draw minors in sexual situations... Simply don't draw minors in sexual situations in it will not be able to be applicable to you

@SparkysTech Everyone knows that this is UK law, we just think it’s an unethical law because of its ability to be abused. What happened to Count Dankula was also legal, bear in mind.

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ So you do see a correlation between limiting freedoms and increasing safety?

@mimi8m1t @LucyPyre_ Its violent everywhere because humans are violent creatures. It just seems more extreme in america because we have guns

super controversial take apparently but i think arresting artists for drawing fictional characters is bad

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ Have you ever thought that the US is so riddled by violence because it is so socially acceptable to express it?

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ That's because your government has never experienced actual extremist ideology taking over and creating a totalitarian state. In countries that did experience it this is totally illegal and can be reported to the authorities.

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ If you need to explore those ideas in a "safe environment" you are threat to the society... We should not be allowing the consumption of a fictional version of illegal material to placate people who find them attractive and inevitably want to act on them in real life.

@mimi8m1t @LucyPyre_ with the intent to get people to commit crimes, likewise for erotic material that features things like r*pe or Sn*ff. Its a way to explore ideas in a safe non-destructive environment.

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ 3. It's literally not It's a crime just as encouraging violence is. Besides you are talking to someone who is literally doing their masters in extremism studies. You wouldn't want to live in a true anarchist vision of the world, that's one of the least though through ideologies.

@mimi8m1t @LucyPyre_ 1. The anarchist cookbook is available to read for free. 2. Cigarettes cannot be aired on public access but i'm completely free to right about them in books 3. its perfectly legal to glamorize or idolize terrorist movements. In all three cases your argument fails because-

@ScreenBeams @DandyDuck118582 The girl that got arrested literally drew her character with a pacifier with captions stylised to sound like a 5 year old talking... How tf was that not supposed to portray a child?

@DandyDuck118582 NOT fucking "children" you delusional retard. "Drawings of children" implies the art is using actual children as reference. Lolis are styleized cute petite anime characters. I like lolis, the cute anime styled characters, not children. I know the fucking difference, do you?

"Anime cp" genuinely fuck you. An artist drawing fictional petite girls (lolis) is NOWHERE near the fucking same as FOOTAGE OF CHILDREN BEING ABUSED. It's so fucking clear you lack any kind of understanding as to why CSAM is fucking horrible.

@mafuyeo Just because some underpaid social media intern engagement baits naïve, desperate K-pop fans like you doesn't mean that information ever gets to the actual decision makers of the brand. Opposed to the members YS never had any owner or brand rep personally acknowledge him.

@mimi8m1t you literally just admitted the problem that i’ve been saying this whole time- for some reason kq is not doing shit for ys for reasons unbeknownst to me- and if you want proof of brands wanting ys check instagram

say it with me lives are not solo schedules- solo schedules are something that is supposed to promote them professionally not something that’s interacting with fans- yeosang is not being promoted outside of his group which is the problem

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ That's the basis of the concept of a social contract on which the entire Western democracy, style of governance and idea of a state has been built.

@Papillon_de_Dia @LucyPyre_ Some degree of censorship is needed for the public safety even in a democracy You're not allowed to post instructions for production of explosives, radicalisation materials or for example advertising cigarettes for a reason. Some freedoms you trade for the protection of the state

@mafuyeo How do you believe they are individually promoting the other members? 💀

@mimi8m1t how do you think solo schedules happen they cant just pull them out of their ass- kq promotes the group/individual members and then those members get more invites after that- ys is not getting the same treatment so it falls on the company to promote him to get those invites

@mafuyeo Especially since it seems like even the other members don't want to give him schedules (or he is incapable of arguing his case when they make those decisions) cuz every time they say they decided among themselves he's not chosen

@mafuyeo And they didn't for all the other members we agreed on that. The rest still managed to get popular and in demand that's 7 out of 8... It seems to me like only one not succeeding might suggest the problem is not in the management style.