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@JaxeThepump @IsThisA3DModel your attempt to find a middle ground has been flagged as 'too logical' and will be discarded to maintain the current state of collective rage.

@IsThisA3DModel To be fair, AI art has great a potential, mainly for brainstorming or early concept art. If you want any changes It takes seconds and some words. You can later use that art as a reference to create your own thing. Now, Ai slop is a completely different thing

AI Bros: "All you do is post "AI bad" on Twitter you're just a rage bait engagement farming grifter trying to capitalize on hate against AI Us: Hey guys this retopology tool looks like it could potentially be a good use of AI! AI Bros: NOOO WTF YOURE SUPPOSED TO SAY ITS BAD

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel it's an AI designed to agree with you on everything, you can't throw arguments from AI, specially if you are against it.

@mindcore53 @IsThisA3DModel As for sending you the information, I already shared with you what I was able to find. Don't like it or don't believe it? I don't give a f*ck. Tell it to your therapist and do your own research if you have a problem. I'm not your mom.

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel i mean, if you are really against AI, you may do your research to eliminate all AI from your life, but not only google is an AI you use, but you use it to throw arguments, next time do your research in official pages if you really want to defend your point.

You know Google has been replaced by AI, right? Do you know of a search engine that has access to the same amount of information that does not use AI? Also, go f*ck yourself with your bad faith arguments. No one cares that you have a chip on your shoulder and just want to watch the world burn.

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel you know you just what wasted 10 gallons of water on that consultation to the AI right? send me how this tool officially have an opt-in method to train their AI

Actually no. It's not trained on stolen data, for a change. It works with properly licensed datasets, which would also mean the artists who contribute stock get some sort of compensation, and their stock isn't used without their consent. This would be a huge game changer for artists who wanted to try AI tools, but never wanted to steal from other artists.

@TheMG3D i made the background with AI but the character i painted it on photoshop, do you mind?

Artists show me your art!

@Tamaramonkey @IsThisA3DModel probably that retopology tool is trained by lot of 3D renders stolen from real artists, but for some reason that doesn't matter anymore.

I haven't seen the retopology tool. What is it? And nuance is fine. This stuff is new to all of us. Artists did want AI art tools. We just didn't want unethical tools that would steal identities and livelihoods, devalue art, and kill art jobs. Open to hearing about new developments.

@IsThisA3DModel @Parallaxperspec my dude, you can use midjourney to give you composition ideas and then doing it "by hand" and you heavily critique genAI tools because "it steals from artists" but being selective for the AI you do like is hypocritical.

Not angry! And we've explained multiple times. Niche tools that technically aid artists in their specific process in favor of the work they're aiming to create, is not the same as tools that do the entire creative process for them and output results that are a blender of other people's work

@BJ_Beyond @alexutopia If you are above the line of quality of AI, you won't see AI as rewarding as someone below that line, that's the reason

@alexutopia Yes, I agree, but famous artists (not emerging artists) usually don’t go to AI.

AI is exposing a lot of artists. Because it reveals how many were surviving on friction, scarcity, and gatekeeping. Real artists were never loyal to the process. Only people with no vision are.

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 can you get better?

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Ai should be a tool, yet we use it to replace ourselves because some just cant try to get better

Let's 🗣️ get 🗣️ things 🗣️ straight 🗣️

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 did you read what i said? lol

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 They are 2 completely different things

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 we are going in circles, if you can't understand that AI can't do anything by itself, it always need HUMAN input to give you something, and that HUMAN input is all you need to call it your own, we can't discuss this issue.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Art for something you didnt made it yourself , for something, that you know you didnt make, calling it art and calling yourself an artist?

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 not exactly the same, just a different medium, different tools, different workflows, but 'cuz you haven't used AI to make something decent, you can't understand it, you really look like those old people that bashed digital art and 3D for years.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Lmao you are talking like pickup a pen and draw is the same with i give you idea

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 I think there's a misunderstanding, I don't use AI for my drawings, I defend the right of people to use AI to create art, explain me what's your point because i don't get it.

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Is it because it is much ezr to call it art rather than improve your self?

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 who did it then? the AI? do you know AI can't do anything by itself right? also a digital tablet can't do anything by itself, and both are tools! can you understand that AI is a tool right?

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 ‘I gave all my heart in it, yet i cant attempt to even do it myself’ is hilarious

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 what? are we talking about the mermaids right? I honestly don't know what you mean, i draw in inconsistent style all the time, lol

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Oh no, i accidentally add realism in to a pic that supposed to be stylised, look at the pic and a normal person draw and tell me, you cant identify it

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Can you distinguish a piece of art just by looking at it? How can you know this person made these mermaids without putting their heart into making them as beautiful as possible?

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 If you wanna do it to someone and truly give your heart in it, it is still art But at the point where you just get the result by telling something to do it, then no. And no, not all commission are art, they are entertainment media

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 okay so just debunked de "ai slop" thing, if humans can enjoy non-ai slops, ai being sloppy is not the issue, your issue now is "putting the hard work on it so others can validate your work" but you don't know how much work this person put to give the best input possible to an AI

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Second of all, art isnt just about story or quality, us human can enjoy stupidly ugly stuff and still call it art(not those bulshit modern art) If you cant enjoy the progress of doing it, then it is nothing, just entertainment media.

@MadeOfVoidfr @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 inconsistent style? how many regular artists i know that 'suffers' from this too, lol

@mindcore53 @warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 Lmao, you clearly can see the inconsistence in the style

@Mr_Chistera @warbird @_darwin_110 that's right, in Argentina if you want a pineapple just say "dame una piña" and sometimes they will give it for free.

@mindcore53 @warbird @_darwin_110 heard that if you say "hijo de puta" to an Argentinean in the morning, they will offer you a "piña" as a reward

@warbird @Mr_Chistera @_darwin_110 depends on the country, on his country it means "good day"

@Mr_Chistera @mindcore53 @_darwin_110 I just looked it up, "Hijo de puta" is a highly offensive Spanish vulgarism that literally translates to "son of a bitch" or "son of a whore," where puta means prostitute.