Cecelia
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Cecelia
@mitotic
Androphilia Advocate // Immanentize the eschaton
Katılım Eylül 2014
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@dilanesper you are delusional. stop talking about trans issues you clearly know nothing about.
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@mitotic But the thing is, it pissed c i s lesbians off for some pretty obvious reasons. Lesbians, who are natural allies of trans people, sometimes get radicalized by this far more than anything in the normal suite of trans issues.
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Long before the political debates about trans issues, the thing that radicalized TERFs back in the 1970's was a fairly small but highly publicized number of trans women were clearly just behaving like straight men with male privilege and demanding lesbians have sex with them.
Aella@Aella_Girl
my friend just went to a lesbian orgy for women only. She was nervous, but said it went great. Said she was a bit surprised tho to find at the end of the night that 50% of the visible genitals were penises
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@dilanesper this is such a non-issue that I think worse of you for pretending that TERFs were right to get upset about it. the issue they imagine is so distinct from what you describe as to be fake anyways!
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@mitotic It wasn't imagined. It was not systemic though.
What happened is that there were a few obnoxious people who didn't get bottom surgery and declared that lesbians needed to sleep with them to show solidarity. We have letters to the editor of feminist zines and such confirming this
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@dilanesper you on the other hand are acting like those imagined issues were real and that TERFs were right to get upset about them. you are wrong, and your post is awful
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@dilanesper yes, TERFs at the time were just as delusional and evil as the TERFs now, and complained about the same largely imagined issues. this doesn't make that issue something anyone should ever give a shit about, then or now.
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@elivenspire we're going to do things to you so awful that you'll wish you'd let every child on the planet get "mutilated" if only it would have led to you being spared
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@mitotic @EyeOnStalk @thereisnobeth Stopping the mutilation of mentally unwell children is more important than padding the bankrolls of the medical establishment.
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importantly this will also be used to exclude intersex women from competing bc we've arbitrarily decided that genetic advantage is cheating but all the other ones Olympians tend to have are fine
matt@mattxiv
in the entire history of the olympics (more than 10,000 athletes each summer games and 3,000 each winter) since 1896, this would have applied to one (1) woman who did not place in anything
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Cecelia retweetledi
Guy who refuses to choke out and hit a woman because he’s a misogynist who doesn’t want to give them what they want
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@EyeOnStalk @thereisnobeth those are two separate and unrelated statements. idiots obsessed with trans sports participation have helped torture thousands of trans children and prevent them from transitioning. this matters more than the fairness of any game
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@mitotic @thereisnobeth What have they done to trans people? There's no better time in history to be trans than right now.
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@EyeOnStalk @thereisnobeth I think sports fans deserve to be punished for what they've done to trans people. 20 years with zero legal sports playing on any level is I think a fair punishment
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@mitotic @thereisnobeth Really? No one ever gets to play sports? You think that will make people happy? All this because we can't handle DSD women?
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@thereisnobeth What you are arguing is to abandon the sex category in sports completely. Is that what you're prepared to argue?
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@encyclopath @dilanesper i see you live in the bizarro political world where it makes sense to refer to nonexistent problems like "sex trafficking". goodbye.
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@mitotic @dilanesper Sure, and if it turns out being sex trafficked isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, they can just decide to stop doing that.
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one thing i discovered in some of the debates about parental rights- many online lefties and liberals basically think the typical American parent is a child abuser (although they don't really have coherent positions about what to do about it)
Matthew Yglesias@mattyglesias
Endless takes on ~gentle parenting~ but actually most Americans supporting disciplining kids “with a good hard spanking” and this is true across age cohorts. slowboring.com/p/in-defense-o…
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@encyclopath @dilanesper there is a difference between kink with consenting adults and sexually assaulting children. if you can't understand that, never leave your home.
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@encyclopath @dilanesper right now as we speak there are children all over the world making the choice every day to do survival sex work rather than return to parents who "only" spank them. i trust them to understand which is worse, by their own metric.
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@mitotic @dilanesper In what world would this provide a better overall outcome for such children?
Show whatever stats you want about the effects of disciplinary spanking as described, and then show me stats on the effects of children in foster care or those who are currently illegally emancipated?
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@Ak6338952927051 @dilanesper there are ways for institutions to guard against child molestation structurally as well, basic stuff like "no adult ever allowed to be alone with a child in a room" or more complex filtering mechanisms for hiring. no parents go thru any of these.
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@Ak6338952927051 @dilanesper we can avoid this simply by allowing kids to freely leave any existing child shelter to travel to others or return to their parents etc as they please. much harder to rape kids if they can just walk out.
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@dilanesper what are you so scared is going to happen? a kid gets told he can't have heroin by his mom and storms off to a child shelter and stays there until he's 18? if this happened it would still lead to larger numbers of abused kids being freed in ways they have literally 0 hope of now.
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@mitotic And yes, 14 year olds are terrible, impulsive, ignorant decisionmakers (and drama queens and sometimes even liars) so you absolutely need an authority figure who is an adult and experienced and can evaluate these claims rather than just deferring to the kid.
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@dilanesper kids are not excited to become sex workers. they do it because going back home is genuinely worse. if doing child sex work is better than going home, why don't we just legalize running away instead of forcing kids to prove they should be allowed to leave?
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@dilanesper this is in part due to the fact that running away is illegal and thus forces you out of most of the economy and society if you don't want to have the cops drag you back to your parents. children of abusive parents should be provided for by the state to the *child's* satisfaction.
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@dilanesper why do you think police need to evaluate if a child should be allowed to leave an abusive situation? is it really so different to make a 19yo wife prove her husband cheated on her to get a divorce, and to make a 14yo prove her parents hit her to get emancipated?
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@dilanesper running away leads to worse outcomes *now* because we allow it to. were it legal, we could provide better solutions directly, for housing/food/etc so they don't have to turn to survival sex work just to get away from their parents.
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