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@bidigiboy @FarAwayFree1 @BasedDostoevski hahahahaah DNA doesn't lie, people do. i dare you, test it and come back with results.
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Btw this is a complete myth, with 0 historical evidence. Most historical accounts of "sicanje" date it back to way before the Ottomans, and in fact suggest that this sort of tattooing was a pagan practice. Yet another thing made up by Croats, like the rest of their history.
Karl Martin@KarlMartinIrl
The @BBC brain-dead Eurovision commentators neglected to say that the Croatian group LELEK’s song ‘Andromeda’ recalls the women and girls in South East Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries who opted to tattoo Christian symbols on their faces in order to escape the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire's forced conversions to Islam or the attentions of Muslim slavers. @declanganley @TheMandyGall @OdohertyI64991 @helerina
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@bidigiboy @FarAwayFree1 @BasedDostoevski seriously, that's the only argument you have? denying your own history before 1991 and ancestry doesn't change the facts. and doesnt change DNA. why don't you do the testing and come back to compare?
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@mtomas085 @FarAwayFree1 @BasedDostoevski Croats did not exist until someone from croatia had brainwashed them thinking they are croats
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@lukeharring5 @Meslidjan blablabla here you are talking nonsense again. white croats, do your homework. i've already dismantled you in the debate about that "glorious" empire of yours, inshallah someone treats you like ottomans treated us.
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@mtomas085 @Meslidjan @iiwasinthee212 What identity? For nearly a millennium you were passed between Hungary and Austria, then ruled by a Serbian king until WWII. They treated you like servants fetching slippers, yet you trash-talk the only empire that treated you with decency. Balkanization at its best.
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Eurovisiom is so fucking extra imagine writing a song about the ottoman empire in 2026
Anna 🎗️🇮🇱✡️🦁@AnnaOdessa13
🇭🇷 Kroatien stürmte mit einem Lied ins Finale des Eurovision Song Contest, in dem von der osmanischen Besatzung und der Tradition christlicher Tätowierungen zur Schutz junger Mädchen vor Muslimen gesungen wird. Das Lied auf Kroatisch hat überhaupt nichts mit der gesamten „progressiven" Agenda des ESC-Bla-Bla zu tun; es verurteilt die jahrhundertelange islamische türkische Besatzung kroatischer Gebiete und erinnert an die alte kroatische Tradition, katholischen Mädchen christliche Motive als Tätowierungen auf den Körper zu bringen, um ihre Entführung, Zwangsumkehr zum Islam und sexuelle Versklavung zu verhindern. Das Lied, in dem gesungen wird, dass „viele das Grab gewählt haben, weil unsere Mütter keine Sklaven geboren haben", wurde als Akt kultureller Tapferkeit in einer Ära des suizidalen politischen Korrektheitsdrucks und der selbstmörderischen Toleranz mit Applaus aufgenommen. Die Türkei hat bereits offizielle Beschwerden gegen die kroatischen Interpreten eingereicht 🙃. Via @ezramorshow
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@mtomas085 Check your screenshots before posting them online next time, don't make a fool out of yourself.
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@lukeharring5 Why would I report your post, you are not that important + you got completely dismantled in this debate
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@mtomas085 Whatever mate, keep reporting my posts, apparently that's the only thing you are actually good at.
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@lukeharring5 Instead of Bosnian children, focus on Armenian, Kurdish, Libyan, Syrian...
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@mtomas085 You literally said we never slaughtered bosnian children, can't you read your own tweet?
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And reporting all my posts tells a lot about your personality. Well done.
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@lukeharring5 When I wrote Serbs did it, I assumed you were referring to Srebrenica. Regarding Ahmići, I have explained it extensively.
You know, it's hypocritical to single out Ahmići while Kurdish people Armenians, Greeks in Cyprus, Syrians, Libyans..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_w…
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@mtomas085 @iiwasinthee212 Twisting facts? You literally flipped from "Serbs did it"to "every story has two sides" in 5 minutes. And you accuse me of twisting facts? Or wait, was I right all along when I called you a discount Serb?
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 Facts? What you did was twisting facts and my words. Your ego is hurt. You can't even school yourself, who are you kidding. And your ancestors, well they are champions in brutality, not science... But yeah, you can be proud on the fact you didn't evolve since the dark middle ages
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@mtomas085 @iiwasinthee212 Ouch, did the facts hurt that much? Look mate, my ancestors historically ruled over yours for centuries, so schooling you in a Twitter debate for a few days is a walk in the park for me.
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 And I already wrote that there are two sides for every story long before you mentioned Ahmići, but obviously your memory is selective. Peace and out
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@mtomas085 @iiwasinthee212 Wait, what happened to "we have every right to express the pain of mothers?" Why does the story suddenly have "two sides" when YOUR forces ACTUALLY slaughter babies? I guess it's only a FACT when it fits your anti-Turk melodrama, eh?
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 it was a retaliation for the crimes already committed by the muslim side up to that point. and by the way, nobody was ever held accountable for those crimes against croats, while croats actually faced justice and were held accountable for theirs, checkmate ♟️ glupane
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@mtomas085 @iiwasinthee212 Oh right, sorry, my bad. The ones who burned babies in their cradles at Ahmici weren't Croat HVO forces, it was actually locals from North Sentinel Island. Classic Sentinelese war crimes.
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@lukeharring5 uzdol, miletići, and maline/bikoši where ritual executions were done by mujahedin units.every story has two sides. they got weapons from croats, and then you turned on them to take over central bosnia. do some research from an unbiased source before you start talking shit
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@lukeharring5 since you're mentioning ahmići, research the chronology and what happened before, look up what happened in dusina in january 1993, long before ahmići. or look up trusina, which happened on the exact same day as ahmići, where army of bih killed 22 croats. then look up grabovica,
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 booohooo crybaby.
fyi we never slaughtered bosnian children, serbs did that. we have them shelter from the war, you uneducated person...
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@mtomas085 @iiwasinthee212 Go fucking write a track next year about how Austria and Hungary subjugated you like LITERAL slaves, or the Bosnian children you SLAUGHTERED just 30 years ago. Those are actual FACTS. Fabricating myths about Turks won't erase your own historical guilt.
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 i'm done with this debate. clearly you're not open minded enough to see that there is another reality different from your "glorious" one, and you insisting on that reality only is shortsighted
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@iiwasinthee212 And what fucking cradle are they even talking about? The median age for devshirme was 13-15. In that era, they were practically young men, not adolescents or infants. If they were taken as babies, they wouldn't remember their families to help them later in life.
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@lukeharring5 the craddle part is a metaphora for children shaughtered by ottomans while still in a craddle and the wounds it caused to their mothers. now you'll say, nooo ottomans never did that. yes they did.
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 talk about it? be serious. another thing, craddle part is a metaphora. and yes traitors, local traitors that kissed sultan's ass. and yes, slaves, because that's what those kidnapped kids were. cut the crap already crybaby
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@lukeharring5 @iiwasinthee212 help their families? they were literally sent to slaughter their own villages. do some research from an unbiased source.
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