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Real @Arsenal fan from North London. I'll support my team through thick and thin.

United Kingdom Katılım Temmuz 2024
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@dfwKrade Format has changed now, when we played Europa, good UCL teams dropped down into it, now they don’t so it’s easy to win, that’s why even Tottenham could.
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@NathanPanter_52 Gives it his all and would run through a brick wall for us, top player too.
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Not sure what it is, but I fucking love Hincapie
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Lost my head a fair few times here but win or lose, this is my club Let's see what happens
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate They weren't top ready made players bar Bergkamp and then Campbell, even though he was a Bosman. They were mostly old stalwarts, cheap buys or misfits, Henry himself was one, and they developed into top teams. Not the same as City who've bought ready made players for years now.
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate In the 8 seasons he was there, United, the competition, were the highest spenders in 3 of those seasons, splashing out huge sums (30m then) on top ready made players, the Invincible team cost peanuts in comparison. For perspective, Arsenal didn't spend 30m on a player until 2013.
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Never claimed that KDB played alongside all top level readymade pro’s, but the majority were, Gundogan for sure was, Sane and Laporte weren’t, I made the distinction in my previous tweet. Point is, KBD definitely played alongside more, that helped him to win more trophies.
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate "Manchester City have signed Liverpool and England forward Raheem Sterling for a fee that could reach £49m. City will pay an initial £44m for the 20-year-old, making him the most expensive English player ever." If you say so, no clout.
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Okay so your argument is that unknown players arent allowed to be good? What kind of nonsense is that? Everyone is unknown before they start performing. And Gundogan, Sterling, Laporte and even Sane didnt have anywhere near the clout when they were signed, until, ofc, KDB cooked
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate And again, I don't need Henry to match KDB's assists. I need him to be better for longer and more consistently. That was his JOB, and if he did it, they would've won more. He did not. KDB's job was creation, and because he (leading like Henry) was good at it, City won everything
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Because trophies are based on the team around you, you cannot win trophies by yourself, you can make your team better, but you couldn't put the best player in the world into a bottom team to guarantee a trophy.
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate When did I say trophies? Nice try😭. Trophies do matter because they are the one group constant. Unless you want to argue that old arsenal was shit, they should've won more, especially with the "best striker oat" leading them.
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Henry matched KDB's assist record, proving he could do both, I can then make the same argument, at no point was Henry the primary playmaker, but he could still do it. 100% agree, goals and assists or trophies don't matter, you can be the better player without them.
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate At no point was KDB the primary goalscorer, and becoming it would screw with the City system. Henry always was, which is why he scored. That argument bears no weight, its like comparing Vini and Rodris GA. Rodri won the BD because he was a better player, not because of goals
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Didn't say they're not allowed to be good, but players like Henry made them better. You're being illogical. Messi wasn't signed for anything?? His market value was over £100m and everybody knew that. Pires and Ljungberg was relative unknown, KDB didn't play with relative unknowns
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate So players signed for little are not allowed to be good? Why do you make all these strange, easily disprovable arguments? Messi has never been sold for anything. They are legendary players? Who cares what the tag was. Antony cost an arm, leg and rib and was shit
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Henry = 249 GA in 258 games, Suarez = 92 GA in 110, not even close. Henry's job was to score, KDB to assist, Henry could do both, KDB couldn't, that's why he's regarded by nearly everyone as the greatest. Henry second most highest assists was 14, KDB was 18 (once) and 16 (twice).
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate What happened to the longevity argument? I thought Henry mogged Suarez's consistency?? I dont care about a season. We're talking about their careers. De Bruynes job is to create chances. He categorically outclasses everyone in history save Messi at it.
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Pires was signed for 6m and Ljungberg was signed for 3m, should help you to understand who they were in world football, best players were being signed for 20m+ then. KDB had Aguero, Sterling, Mahrez, Haaland as top top, then Sane, Jesus, Foden, Gundogan. Give your head a wobble.
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@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate All this, keep in mind, when his primary outlet was Sterling. Henry had Pires, Ljnbgberg, and Bergkamp. KDB, for almost a decade, was the best player in the Prem, save maybe Salah, but Salah didnt win nearly as much so not really. Henry wasn't the best anywhere for over 5 years
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Yes, when KDB could only match the PL season assist record of Henry. It's proof that Henry could do what KDB did in a season "productivity" wise, and would've produced more if played in attacking mid, but KDB isn't scoring 30 goals if played up front. But yes "vibes". Good work.
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate You have no numerical evidence disproving the claim the De Bruyne is comfortably the most creative player to ever touch a Premier League pitch. He is head and shoulders above everyone else production wise. My argument is the top 10 assist list. Yours is vibes or something lmao
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate We're discussing the best in the Premier League, I don't care what Suarez did in other leagues, he had no longevity in the Premier League and Henry has a better GA per 90 here, which is more difficult over a longer period. KDB isn't top 2 in the Premier League, maybe scrapes 5th.
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@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Messi's most productive seasons were at false 9. He is statistically the greatest striker of all time. Suarez has "no longevity" with over 250 GA in just 70 more appearances. His production eclipses Henry. And I didnt specify PL. I said ever. He is not top 5. De Bruyne is top 2
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Maybe R9? R9 was definitely better. Messi is not a striker. Out of all the strikers you named, Henry is the best in class in the PL era, CR7 didn’t peak in the PL, nor played as a striker here, Suarez didn’t have the longevity, good to know we’re finally getting somewhere.
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate Henry is like the 4th to 6th best striker in history. I have Messi, Ronaldo, Lewa maybe R9 and Suarez over him. There is statistically no one in history that nears De Bruyne's creative production except Messi. Ever. That's the difference
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@cool_soll @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate I’m not denying any of what you’ve said, but they’re not crazy assist numbers, Messi has crazy assist numbers, Henry had crazy GA numbers, KDB was top as a creative attacking midfield, but he doesn’t rub shoulders with the best of the game.
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cool soll@cool_soll·
@no_effin_filter @Mason144813 @BlueWolf_09 @marvie_ultimate KDB is second behind only Giggs in PL history in assist. He has the lowest amount of games played on the top 10 by FAR, and Giggs only beats him through having almost 400 games more. He is comfortably, bar Messi, the greatest playmaker ever. His rate is untouchable
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