@oewing_@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 and also the only reason he brought up crimea is cause so many disingenuous people wanting to find a reason to hate on hasan so much where continuing to bring it up he didnt just bring it up as a justification for what the russians are doing
@narcoticenjoyer@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 yea that is the argument people are making and both you and hasan have made, that the local people in these regions are pro russia so it’s fine to annex those regions. Is this not what you were saying with you voting point and the point hasan was making on stream
@oewing_@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 no one is using these justifications for the justification of the ukranian invasion you are the one making the connection im literally just explaining historical fact cause op was saying hasan was justifying crimea which it was justified in annexing and wanted to be annexed
@narcoticenjoyer@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 bit of a straw man there buddy, you are arguing that it was justified for russia to invade a part of a country due to local support. With this argument you could justify never giving anything to native americans because the local support is pro america
@oewing_@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 In America we do allow them to claim that land tho in the form of reservation the big reason they suck is cause lack of investment into infrastructure and systemic oppression which didn't leave any capital for natives to use also if a majority of natives in America want to be in
@narcoticenjoyer@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 not true one region is pro russian the donbas region the rest of the country is pro nato, it’s also the region that historically has had russians moving into and a history of the government trying to increase a russian identity
@oewing_@PresidentJose3@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 The majority of ethnic Ukrainians 55% voted yes to joining the Russian federation and again why can't a sovereign nation choose its own path when it doesn't align with your perceived reality?
@PresidentJose3@oewing_@Tiamatte_@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 97% wanted to join btw I hear a lot of "why can't a sovereign nation choose to join nato" but when one wants to join Russia u think it's false and some propaganda your worldview is childish and reactionary
@Tiamatte_@PresidentJose3@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 he was more than just wrong about the invasion he was actively defending russias aggression into the east areas of ukraine to his 100k viewers. Spreading russian misinformation campaign is more that just having a wrong opinion
@PresidentJose3@Van_Rees_@DylanBurns1776 Listening Ukrainian officials and other intelligence agencies and being skeptical of the U.S. agencies who have lied us into war before is a reasonable principled position. If even the head of BND(German Intel.) can get it wrong, so can a streamer. Be more charitable.
@CaulkWouldy@lymmy54@DestinyOOC they both talk about each other an equal amount, if i were to give a reason as to why vaush doesn’t usually show a clip giving context it’s probably because it’s harder for V to misrepresent his positions if you are listening directly.
@gm_bk3@Vander_Nars@Sara_Godsword@joeypancetta@eternalapp He never reached via their business emails, so none of the streamers knew it was happening, he still put the clips up without permission, and if they were to be brought he would make commission on that clip and the money for the streamer would just be waiting there in a wallet
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