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Ekin yayınları Wael B.Hallaq tarafından kaleme alınan "İbn Teymiyye'nin Yunan Mantığına itirazları" isimli eseri tercüme edeceğini duyurdu.

Brother Haroun makes exactly 3 points in this thread: 1) God is not questioned about what He does (Quran 21:23) 2) If Allah were to punish everyone He would not be unjust (Hadith) 3) Statement by Imam Al-Tabari allegedly supporting the Ashari position 🧵 (0/3)

2) The hadith Haroun believes supports his position: The prophet ﷺ said, “If Allah were to punish the inhabitants of His heavens and His earth, He would do so without being unjust in doing so. And if He were to have mercy on them, His mercy would be better for them than their own deeds.” The brother seems to be in such a rush to refute “Wahhabis” that he can’t even take the time to calm down and understand the dispute in question. The core issue isn't about whether Allah would be unjust in punishing the inhabitants of the heavens and the earth were He to choose to do so. If Allah chooses to punish a group of people, it would unquestionably be just. Allah doesn't act arbitrarily or on a whim like a madman would, far glorified is He above that. His actions are rooted in perfect wisdom and justice. Therefore, if He punishes a people, it's because they truly deserve it due to their actions and shortcomings, not because He randomly decided to do so without any reason whatsoever. The punishment would be a direct result of their own deeds, not an unfounded or capricious decision from Allah. Take a look at this verse, for example: “And if we had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together” (32:13). If Allah had willed, He could have placed everyone in hell, and if that is indeed what He willed, the He wouldn’t be unjust in doing so. Why? Because He simply wouldn’t have given “any” soul its guidance. Otherwise, what connection could there be between "filling hell with people" and "not guiding everyone"? By your logic, He could have given every soul its guidance and STILL filled hell with people and jinn, in which case the verse wouldn't make much sense. Similarly, when Allah says, “And when We intend to destroy a city, We command its affluent but they defiantly disobey therein; so the word comes into effect upon it, and We destroy it with [complete] destruction”, He both a) Wills the destruction of a people and 2) Is not unjust in doing so—because He "commands its affluent but they defiantly disobey therein". This is very clear and doesn't require a genius to see. May Allah grant us understanding. When I say “If Allah were to destroy this town He would not be unjust or unwise in doing so”, then, I’d be correct, because obviously, God doesn’t act based on whim; He creates the asbab that appropriately relate to the outcome rather than randomly creating "outcomes" for no reason. Whatever Allah does is unquestionably just—which is exactly why He would never do things that are inherently unjust. This is like when we say, "whatever God commands you to do is good for you." This doesn’t mean He would ever command us to disbelieve in Him, making disbelief somehow good. No, He would never command disbelief because He only commands what is truly and ultimately good for us. Your contention here, Haroun, is akin to saying that if God’s commands are good, then He could command disbelief and it would be good, which is straightforwardly absurd. Allah further says, “And fear a Day when you will be returned to Allah. Then every soul will be compensated for what it earned, and they will not be treated unjustly”. On your understanding, which reduces Divine Justice to mere ownership, the verse is saying nothing but this: "And fear a Day when you will be returned to Allah. Then every soul will be compensated for what it earned, and they will not **be dealt with by anyone but their owner**", which is clearly not what the verse is saying. So yes, if Allah were to punish everyone in His heavens and earth, He would not be unjust in doing so; just as if He chooses to destroy a city or fill hell fire with humans and jinn, He would also not be unjust in doing so, Subhanah. Try to understand this point, it’ll help you a lot insha'Allah. (2/3)

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Ash'ari Aqeeda: Good is whatever Allah commands, and just is whatever Allah does. لا يسأل عما يفعل وهم يسألون. فعال لما يريد. Don't put your 'Aql b4 the Naql 😎.

1 Ibn Taymiyya view on Hell’s eventual cessation is methodological. 🧵 The issue is not whether eternality became the dominant Sunni doctrine, but whether it was truly an uncontested ijma of the Salaf. Neither can his view be divorced from his views on 'divine wisdom'.