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@sands659 @mdcrumpler @KimChiSpicey On behalf of everyone who lives on land they don’t own, fuck you. Also, fuck off with your ignorant, childish libertarian nonsense. Nobody has a “right” to own land in the first place.

@perlavolonta @mdcrumpler @KimChiSpicey If we never demolished anything, society would stagnate. It’s good to build new things, and nobody has a right to stop people doing things with their own land.

The westside of SF is denser than downtown Austin.

@sands659 @mdcrumpler @KimChiSpicey Ok, I’m going to spell this out for you one more time, and then I’m done talking to you. Sometimes people are displaced against their will because their homes are torn down to build other, more expensive homes. 👎 Sometimes housing is built without demolishing anyone’s home. 👍

@perlavolonta @mdcrumpler @KimChiSpicey Bahahahah. The places with the most housing construction have the least displacement, because it keeps rents stable

@mdcrumpler @KimChiSpicey @sands659 Calm down. Those same reasons are why I don’t live in SF anymore. I think density is good, I think we need to build lots of social housing near transit. But not by displacing existing residents.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey @sands659 I am literally displaced from Santa Cruz California because I cannot afford to buy a $1.3+ million home or spend $4000 a month on a 2-3br What the fuck are you on about bro. There's displacement in the current system but it's in a way you are willing to ignore

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey I think you have an exaggerated notion of the effect my tweets have on the housing market. Anyway, where is this YIMBY paradise you call home?

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey By just admitting defeat and saying that because interest rates are high, no new houses can be built. Guess what, interest rates are high where I live, and we are still building tonnes of houses, and that amount is increasing.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey How am I leaving them to do anything? It’s not my fault real estate investors expect double-digit IRR. That’s why I’m telling you the market won’t save us. Homes will never be like the widgets in an imaginary perfectly competitive market. Land isn’t fungible, for one thing.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey I want developers to be able to compete, which reduces their profits. you just blame interest rates, and leave them to make record profits due to massively restricted housing production.

@mdcrumpler @KimChiSpicey @sands659 It’s not about “character.” It’s about preventing displacement.

@KimChiSpicey @perlavolonta @sands659 Stop living in the 1980s. It's 2026 and maintaining "character" is an excuse for shitty policies that force 5-7 non-related people to occupy these 3-5 bedroom family homes for cheap rent. It's already treated as apartments. You literally live in SF wtf man

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey What’s entitled is mostly very high density. SF has just done a big upzoning of most of the city, and everyone knows it’s not going to make housing development feasible at a large scale until interest rates come down and/or rents get even higher.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey Well upzoning allows more profitable housing to be built, which have more units that can be sold.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey That doesn’t answer my question.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey Well it’s illegal to build more than a single family home on most lots in LA.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey It’s hilarious that your twitter bio is “YIMBY,” you’re arguing the market will solve our housing problems, I’m saying it won’t, and you’re calling ME a shill for developers.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey That is the biggest reason why new houses aren’t built. Country wide, yes, they are at about 19% of income, down from 22% in 2023. We also are building twice and many houses as we were 10 years ago, due to zoning reform.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey Right now the biggest issue is probably interest rates.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey In SF, there is a massive housing shortage, rents are sky high, and there are 50,000 entitled units that are apparently still unprofitable to build. What magical thinking leads anyone to believe that relaxing zoning by itself will get rents down to an affordable level?

@KimChiSpicey @perlavolonta That’s just bullshit. If they are allowed, builders will keep building until it’s unprofitable, and in places with massive housing shortages, that can take years. After that, sure, but by then most people will have better and cheaper houses, which is a very good thing.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey You really aren’t getting it. Rents may go down some, but there’s no reason to believe market rate development alone will bring them down far enough for most people to afford.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey Yeah, and without building more houses, they will never get one for an ‘affordable’ price. My city allowed tonnes more houses to be built, and lo and behold, prices have dropped significantly from their peak.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey Where you live, are rents affordable for working class families? Anyway, who said anything about “draconian zoning”?

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey That hasn’t happened where I live. And even then, why does that mean we should restrict new construction with draconian zoning?

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey Really, you think “affordable to somebody” is what we mean by affordable? You’re that oblivious to the housing affordability crisis affecting most working people?

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey That’s not true actually, why would a developer build a house nobody would buy. If anyone buys it that’s affordable.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey It does matter. Building will stop being attractive to the market long before rents go down enough that they’re affordable for most people.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey And guess what, prices can keep going down until they are near what it costs to build. It doesn’t matter if they go down.

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey *your

@KimChiSpicey @perlavolonta You’re approach is stupid

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey If we don’t build affordable housing, we won’t have housing people can afford. That means social housing built (at least in part) with public funds. The market will not build affordable housing, because as soon as rents level off, the market will stop building.

@KimChiSpicey @perlavolonta Why would you tax much needed housing

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey This 15-km-radius circle in LA County is denser than the 3-km-radius circle in the center of Austin. That’s an area 25 times as large.

@perlavolonta @KimChiSpicey No I didn’t, I asked if most of la was that dense, and guess what, even in those areas, there is plenty of demand for more houses. How about instead of showing me irrelevant maps, you show me how much a 2 bedroom house costs in any of those areas?

@sands659 @KimChiSpicey When did I suggest there was no room or no demand or no need for new housing?