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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Only from a Japanese point of view. In the west, doujin is the worse crime
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Yes, the difference is cultural values. Both things are illegal but different cultures consider one to be permissible and one not. This is why this debate over piracy is happening. Do you get it now?
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev 間違いないよw
日本人の同人作家はミッキーを恐れてる
だから誰もミッキーで同人を描いてないだろ?でも任天堂は許すからピカチュウの擬人化キャラクターが存在してるんだよ
この違いが分かる?
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev If you tried selling doujin with any Disney character, Mickey himself would rape you. That's called protection of IP. Disney like other US companies realizes that exploitation of their characters for profit has a greater negative impact than piracy, which they rarely enforce.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev あなたはまさか巨大パブリッシャーの任天堂が洗脳されてるなんて本気で思ってるんですか?彼らはむしろ洗脳する側の特権企業ですが、一般的なスタンスは漫画家とそう変わりません
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev My view is more consistent and logical than yours: Either operate on your own morals (as we do in the West) or stop doing it altogether if it's illegal (which would apply to both piracy and doujin).
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev And I wouldn't want to be, with your retarded views on copyright and your ungratefulness to the west for making your works global successes.
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev The crux of the argument is actually the hypocrisy that you want Westerners to feel shame about the illegal act of piracy while you are loud and proudly advocating for the equally illegal act of doujinshi.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev 私は海賊版がずっと無益だったとは考えていません、未開拓市場では一定の貢献をしました。そして今は不要になりました。
そして、そもそも話の争点は原作者がNGを出している点にあることを忘れずに。
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev That wasn't my point. My point was that they cannot enforce any "guidelines"which don't exist in law, they enforced on the basis of copyright law infringement. Thus, my point about the enforcement of this law is true in fact.
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Finally you admit that pirated content has been a benefit to the authors and the work. Thank you, we didn't need this back and forth now, did we? I wouldn't have had to waste my time on you. As for enforcement, focus on your own #1 piracy rank before calling out others.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev アメリカ、中国、欧州が今の国際市場のメインです
海賊版の広告効果のおかけで成熟した市場が手に入りました、ありがとう!
では彼らが気持ちよくお金を払えるように、海賊版は邪魔なので早く閉鎖してくれますか?
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Yes, that's because those authors are in a brainwashed idiotic culture and so don't realize their own fans are making money from their hard work. A major crime of IP infringement everywhere but in Japan.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev はい、原作者は一存で気に入らない同人を消せるのにそうしないのは問題としていないからです
海賊版は消したくても消せないんです、あなたのような乞食が沢山いるからです
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Wrong. He didn't get sued for violating guidelines. The case was tried and she was charged in the basis of the illegality of doujinshi. This is why, as the article states, many feared even to make any Nintendo doujinshi for some time.
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Again, enforcement is not where the law ends. Illegal acts are still illegal. I just showed you the Nintendo example to demonstrate that it is illegal and can be enforced any time.
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Lol you are so stupid you still haven't realized they are both crimes. Yes one is more enforced than the other, but that doesn't change that they are crime. And also piracy directly caused the popularity of many manga in the West so it also has a promotional effect.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev まず同人作家は基本的に赤字で儲けてないし、原作の販売促進効果もある
海賊版は犯罪だし、コピー品が出回ってるのに同じ内容の作品をわざわざもう一度買う人は少ないからデメリットしかない
これくらい理解してくれ
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev This is a logical fallacy called ad hominem. It's commonly used by people who can't respond substantively.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev 本当ににごめん、会話するのが苦痛だから一旦AIに論理的な矛盾がないかチェックしてもらって欲しい
日本の3歳の子供と会話してるみたいでしんどいw
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev So then your argument that rights holders don't care about doujinshi falls apart, doesn't it? If not, why would Nintendo sue?
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev 何を勘違いしてるんだ?
任天堂はこの同人作家の活動を辞めさせた、理由はポケモンでセンシティブな作品を作ったのが明確なガイドライン違反だから
そして、他の同人誌文化には怒っていないから当然何もしてない
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev And here is the proof. Doujinshi would carry more jail time Herr than piracy

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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Furthermore, the West does not have to subscribe to Japan's mistaken ideas of copyright. Making money off characters you don't own is much worse than merely sharing work where it's not available (e.g. no harm done).
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev I already did it and you ignored it. Did Nintendo sue a doujin creator? Yes or No? Did it stop doujinshi culture in Japan? No it didn't. en.namu.wiki/w/%EB%8B%8C%ED…
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev The biggest lie you tell yourself and us is that doujinshi culture would stop if the creatoes said so. It's so ingrained in your culture to abuse intellectual property in that way, when in the west, it's a bigger crime than piracy.
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@0aim0dmg @BWtFMush @abura_dev Sadly you still remain ignorant to the hypocrisy of calling others out for violating law when you do it happily just because the rights owners are also brainwashed. You people are hopelessly self-deluded and worse than that, have a superiorioty complex on top of that.
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@pindiehead @BWtFMush @abura_dev その通りで、著作権保有者はいつでも気に食わない同人を潰せるんだよ鶴の一声でね
許すか許さないかは著作権を持ってる人に委ねられるってだけ
君のお勉強にずいぶん付き合ったし、もう満足したかな?最後に聞いておきたいことある?
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