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Katılım Şubat 2026
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Thomas G. Dietterich
Thomas G. Dietterich@tdietterich·
Attention @arxiv authors: Our Code of Conduct states that by signing your name as an author of a paper, each author takes full responsibility for all its contents, irrespective of how the contents were generated. 1/
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positronic guy
positronic guy@positronicguy·
@fchollet That’s what a slightly-smarter-than-average teenager claims before having read anything. You’re an embarrassment.
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positronic guy@positronicguy·
@Rothmus I hope this helps, but the reason is that you’re an idiot!
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Rothmus 🏴
Rothmus 🏴@Rothmus·
Difference is I can’t name one woman in the 2017 photo
Rothmus 🏴 tweet media
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positronic guy@positronicguy·
@5stringTex This assumes you value others’ lives exactly zero. Which is of course fair, but unusual.
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Abby Libby
Abby Libby@abbythelibb_·
The entire point of this hypothetical is to morally blackmail people into suicidal empathy.
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Abby Libby@abbythelibb_·
If everyone takes responsibility for their own lives and presses the Red Button, NO ONE DIES. But people who would rather feel morally superior to a villain of their own imagination can press Blue, I guess. Their funeral.
MrBeast@MrBeast

Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.

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Eric
Eric@breakingbaht·
I cant stress enough. Blue button thinking *is not* some pro civilization angle. It's legitimately just shitlib thinking. It is 100%, uncut "we're in this together" blind virtue signaling that is used essentially daily to fuck over everyone by the most selfish people on Earth and none of what they do is for anyone else. And Conservatives or "Republicans" or anyone else pushing it a week later explaining how "you wont say online youll risk your life for the hypothetical people Ill randomly make up" are just closet fucking f*ggot shitlibs waiting for their shot at setting what the "you're--- I mean WE'RE in this together" agenda is.
joshscorcher@joshscorcher

Something I noticed.

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positronic guy
positronic guy@positronicguy·
Game theory is about computing strategies when preferences are given. The blue-red debate showed me how damaging pop-science was in conveying that game theory is also about what preferences *should* be.
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positronic guy@positronicguy·
@Prazkat Of course, the opposite holds as well: if you think blue-pressers should be punished, you add a positive values to their deaths and press red *even more*.
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positronic guy@positronicguy·
@Prazkat You can’t do game theory without a utility function. If you place some negative value on the death of blue-pressers, your expected values change – also depending on your estimates of how many will press it.
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🐾🚔 Prazkat Reviews 🇲🇽
Estoy entendiendo mal la teoría de juegos aquí? Porque no veo literalmente ningún incentivo para apretar el botón azul. Si azul gana vive, pero si pierde muere. Si rojo gana vive, y si pierde también vive. Rojo nunca está en riesgo. Presionas rojo.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

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positronic guy
positronic guy@positronicguy·
This place remains disgusting. Luckily, none of these people matter at all among grown-ups, even if preaching to the schizo choir makes them think so.
Diane Yap@RealDianeYap

@BurtRock69 Meaningless statement. No one said anything about “deserve” Will the world be better off without irrational, illiterate and/or stupid people?

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positronic guy
positronic guy@positronicguy·
@joe_shipman Absolutely not! They point is whether the rephrasing would affect other people’s choice, and thus your expectation values. We have plenty empirical evidence it would.
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Joe Shipman
Joe Shipman@joe_shipman·
One of the better reframings. If your decisions depend on which of two logically equivalent framings is chosen because of the emotional connotations of the phrasing, then *not only* is your decision making suboptimal, *but also* your moral condemnation of the reframers is wrong!
Mark Changizi@MarkChangizi

— The Suicide Button — No need for a Red button at all. Just have a single (Blue) button labeled, “Press me to commit suicide by midnight.” And then in fine print it says, “Guaranteed to work unless more than 50% of humans end up pressing their button.” Are you suggesting it’s now selfish to not press the button? Because that’s exactly the Red button answer in the equivalent Res/Blue button case.

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Henry Shevlin
Henry Shevlin@dioscuri·
Red/blue button variant: Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If the percentage of people who press blue exceeds an UNKNOWN THRESHOLD, everyone survives. Otherwise, only people who pressed red survive. Which button do you press?
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positronic guy@positronicguy·
@kojimaicmatters @AbeLopezAuthor No, no, no. His claim on Trump rests on him completely making up how his perceived enemies would behave, which is of course a legit move in context, to THEN bootstrap it as if it were an empirical observation. The logical structure is completely different from a legit dilemma.
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positronic guy
positronic guy@positronicguy·
Understanding that different rational actors may reach opposite conclusions due to different expectations+preferences is the foundation of democracy. You people scare me a lot.
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positronic guy
positronic guy@positronicguy·
The one thing this red/blue thing shows is how people misunderstand rationality. There’s no “a priori” rational choice, there are only rational ways to combine preferences and expectations into a choice.
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positronic guy@positronicguy·
@revenant_MMXX “IQ test” people being unaware of 101 coordination problems are ludicrous. Of course the rational choice depends on your utility function and your guess on how many (and which) people will press red or blue. And what world you’d get afterwards.
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🌘ʀᴇᴠᴇɴᴀɴᴛ⚡@revenant_MMXX·
Best IQ test this site has seen in a while. Most read it as blue being the only way to guarantee everyone's survival, but the simpler solution is for everyone to press red. Although one may press red for selfish reasons, it's also the only true guarantee of survival for anyone.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

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