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@qualiascript
internal realist. liberal particularist. cognitively biased.
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I got into UK politics because I wanted to draw comparisons. I wanted to become more worldly. I wanted to learn from them
Now my timeline is mostly this
London New Liberals@LondonNewLibs
my food in the microwave
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@ShadowyZephyr @Ancapta transgenderism is good just like transracialism
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@hkozachkov @TossitRambles @tracewoodgrains it's not even that it's an unreasonable demand per se, to be tribal is to be human and i cannot fault anyone for putting their kin first
but my kin is the WEIRD world, and its biggest threat is the "Civil Rights" regime and the gradual turn towards a neo-feudal millet system
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Not trying to pick a fight here, but this is a baffling thread.
This entire thing casually presupposes treating these individuals not as countrymen first but as members of a racial affinity group.
Respectfully: No.
The more that this is accepted as a natural and neutral frame in this country, the more over it is.
To my last breath I will reject this critical collectivist first step of treating these fellow citizens as a blob with racial interests. It's a destructive and counterproductive way of thinking about and talking about things and using it is a choice.
It doesn't matter if some large fraction of ostensibly members of the affinity group *want* to be treated this way--it is still bad for this country and for all the people in it, including those demanding to be viewed this way. We should continue fighting it.
When my coethnics want to be treated as Jews first and Americans second, that is also extremely bad and shouldn't be accepted as the natural framing of any topic. I understand the tendency--and I reject it.
(Also, this thread also seems to conflate *caring* with *performance of caring*. Which are we talking about? If it's the first, then it's pretty insulting to assume that your audience doesn't already care about the individuals in question. But if it's the second, how is that not a demand for pandering?)
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I'm sympathetic to classically liberal views of race, but people in my broad camp tend to simply lament that black Americans, by and large, are not persuaded rather than asking why not.
Why did socialists win black support? because they cared in a way classical liberals did not
NeoDogma@NeoDogmaX
@tracewoodgrains @PromptTheory @qualiascript The structure will never change until we let it. My whole thing with black racial questions is, we had a good thing going in the late 90's/early 2000's. Was it perfect? No, but society writ large took the treatment that should have in 20-30 years ended racism as an animating...
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@greegle_mudzone i mean in my case street criminals, thugs and highly impulsive people are just in my out-group, and i don't really care if it's like 95% associated with low IQ, but it's not the IQ itself that is what i have a problem with, but the empirical anti-social behavior they display
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@qualiascript There is a qualitative change around 100-110 whereafter the tensions that arise are less likely to be violent. The annoyance that the 150 feels when surrounded by 120's isn't characterized by physical threat.
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the IQ obsession among midwits is always so entertaining to me. they behave like middle schoolers who discovered they can say "fuck"
Hitchslap@Hitchslap1
Most IQ deniers have never meaningfully interacted with an 85 IQ person. It’s nearly impossible to do so and still believe IQ is fake. Think about it.
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@greegle_mudzone thats fair, but its not like the 150 guy (i dont think im at that level to be clear) is unaware of the existence of the <100's, or in denial about it. it's more so that it would just be needlessly "punching down", which you quickly learn is really frowned upon socially
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@qualiascript Not just professionally, also casually. I'm somewhere around 115, maybe 120 max. I've worked service jobs, manual labour. You do get tired of dealing with people who can't tie their shoes or juggle hypotheticals. Then it stings when the illuminated look down on, outperform you.
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@atlanticesque lots of confusion in the cross-British cultural context with "Asian grooming gangs"
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@adastroworld i remember we argued about something once, idk what it was, but from what i remember the answer is yes
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@thewreathwright like cool, we're all tech bros, autistic, adhd, heterodox libs, we all are high-decoupling about social norms and high-agency. i get it, it's very cool and smart. too bad we're also homo sapiens who have lizard-brain desires for genuine connection and authenticity this is denying
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@thewreathwright im not going to dignify the "larping as a normie" thing with an answer. you keep talking about discursive norms, yet you immediately take my claim of "it's good to disconnect sometimes" as a mere larp. it's just all so tiring at this point, the whole tpot performativity layer
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i get told im "part of tpot" but shit like "consensual waterboarding" is just baffling to me
like this makes me feel like a well-adjusted normie by comparison, what's the point of "touching grass" if you're still performing transgressiveness? where is the off-switch?
vibecamp: june 18-21@vibecamp_
come to vibecamp! we're weird but also cute june 18-21 in MD
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@TossitRambles @urbit i still dont know what urbit does, and at this point i assume it's a big prank
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