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@recroom99
Nebraskan in Exile | Occasionally Intelligent | Severely Addicted to College Football
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They haven’t endured the grind of an SEC schedule
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americans in the southeast of the US have a 20 year shorter life expectancy than those elsewhere insane difference why?
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@Ri_S_OB Dammit it was John Mateer and went 8 feet over the receiver’s head and out of bounds
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Watching your team's QB load up and throw it deep only to see the camera pan and see your WR running unguarded downfield
ena@penahening
Is there anything more satisfying than doing this?
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle In another very qualified sense, yes — begging the Constitutional question is technically addressing it.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle The only language you’ve referenced thus far is the word “admission,” which I’ve already addressed.
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Democracy is when your vote automatically gets switched to whatever was most popular in California
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BREAKING - Outrage is erupting across Virginia after Abigail Spanberger signed HB965 into law, effectively rendering Virginians’ presidential votes null and void, with the measure handing the states electoral votes to the national popular vote winner regardless of states results.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle It simply does. Congress has full prerogative on the question of admission *into the Union*
People of a territory, once they’ve fulfilled each pre-requisite of statehood as defined in territorial land ordinances and petitioned for statehood accordingly, are functionally a state.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Again, you seem to be under the impression that the word “admission” implies pre-existing statehood. It does not. A territory is not a state in any legal sense until it is accepted as one by Congress.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle You continue to say that without addressing the very clear language of the Constitution regarding statehood, which even those who opposed admission of states had to concede.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Except statehood is not a right of territories to exercise at will, it must be consented to by Congress as well.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Again, qualified sense:
It’s an organized and settled US territory with proper local governance - in the land ordinances that governed territorial expansion, this would qualify them for statehood and admission if they requested it.
I think the matter deserves a firm yes or no.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle That position is at odds with its actual legal position under the Constitution, which is what you were just appealing to.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle It does, which, to sound like a broken record, is why the term is “admission”
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle What makes them states? Because certainly the federal government doesn’t recognize them as such until admission.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Definitely, and I’m personally convinced it should either be admitted as a United State or relinquished to independence
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Again, “admission” is the problem there. The Constitution, debates, and policies all reflect that the states pending admission are already “states” in a qualified sense.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle That’s only true of the original thirteen, plus Texas and California. No other states were recognized as states outside of the union. They were territories, then they became states when they were admitted, and not before.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Accordingly, even those who argued against admission of certain states still referred to those territories as “the state of ——.”
Once recognized as a United State, they enjoy the same protections as the original states, especially and of right the electoral college.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Yes, once they are states they are fully equal in status. But they do not become states until they are admitted.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle A state is not a *United* state until it is admitted. But once it has organized itself as a state — and even preceding admission into the Union — it is acknowledged as such.
Its admission simply grants it equal status and rights as all other states under the Constitution.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle I don’t think you understand what admission means in this context. A territory is not a state, full stop. Alaska was a territory until it was admitted as a state.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle If they weren’t states prior to *admission*, their entrance would not be specified as *admission*
Us recognizing them doesn’t render them states, which is why the term is “*admitted* into this *Union*”
and not “*created* within this *Constitution*”
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Except they weren’t states prior to admission, they were territories. They only became states once they were admitted to the union.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle They don’t need to, but it still effectively does.
Hence Pinckney winning.
They’re consenting to join a union composed of separate and pre-existent states, and the structure and law of that union is to regard them as fully equal to the original colonies in every way.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle States are equal under the law, that still doesn’t make them exist retroactively.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle This is the entire source of the King/Pinkney debate preceding the Missouri Compromise. The federal government may admit or not admit a state, but it cannot dictate any condition that doesn’t previously bind the original states.
State equality de jure - they preexist the Union.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle The terms of the Louisiana Purchase were set by the federal government and the French. The federal government planned to parcel out and incorporate it as states, that doesn’t mean those states pre-exist the Union.
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@blucomazz @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle Beyond this, the terms of Louisiana Purchase are explicitly that:
“the inhabitants of the territory shall be incorporated into the Union of the United States, and *ADMITTED* as soon as possible.”
Legitimacy yet again preceding the federal government.
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@recroom99 @ZaxxonGalaxian @shortmagsmle No, they were not. The Louisiana Territory was purchased by, and administered by, the federal government until it was parcelled out into smaller territories. Those territories only had claims to the land because the federal government established them.
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