@kynnigos @alexsakalis There are 2 women with the same on the same island but different time periods
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@kynnigos @alexsakalis No, she wrote extensively about other men. Some poems could be interpreted otherwise. The word lesbian took today's meaning from another woman named sappho in the same island who was the wife of a roman governor.
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In 2008, residents of the Greek island of Lesbos went to court to try and ban the word Lesbian from being used to refer to gay women
King of Megcenae@agameganon
all this Nolan’s Odyssey discourse makes me wish social media was around in 2004 for when an independent group of Greek citizens (not the government, as often falsely claimed) threatened legal action against Oliver Stone/Warner Brothers for making Alexander the Great bisexual
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@kynnigos @alexsakalis It wasn't sapho. She cheated her husband with another man and got abandoned in return losing her daughter and committing suicide.
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@alexsakalis one gay women in history ruined the name forever
thanks Sappho
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@Athanasius_45 I think it's a wrong translation. "A Lacedemonean man when asked to how many the country is governing, he said, to as many as the spear rules over."
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A Spartan answer if there ever was one:
Λάκων ἀνὴρ ἐρωτηθεὶς ἐπὶ πόσον αὐτῶν ἡ χώρα διήκει· „ἐφ’ ὅσον ἂν“ εἶπε „τὸ δόρυ ἰσχύῃ“.
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A Spartan being asked how far their land extended answered: „As far as the spear is mighty.“
Gnomologium Vaticanum 396
@MELETOPOULOS1 Η ιδεα ειναι οτι ολες οι χωρες που σχετιζονται με το imec εχουν δεχτει επιθεση απο χωρες και οντοτητες που σχετιζονται με το δρομο του μεταξιου. Εξαιρεση αποτελει Ελλαδα Κυπρος προς το παρον. Εφοσον φαινεται οτι δεν βγηκε με τι υπολοιπες ισως ερθει η σειρα μας.
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Σοβαρά μμε εκτιμούν ότι επίκειται σοβαρή ελληνοτουρκική κρίση. Προσωπικά δεν πιστεύω ότι η Τουρκία θα επιτεθεί στην Ελλάδα στα καλά καθούμενα Αλλά εάν υπάρχει τέτοια περίπτωση, ο μόνος τρόπος να αποφευχθεί είναι η Ελλάδα να ξεκαθαρίσει ότι θα αμυνθεί λυσσαλέα χωρίς τέλος.
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@PalmyrPar You are a stupid pervert and you should stop watching pornography because it's a gateway to homosexuality, which you are.
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Call me crazy, but for a variety of historical reasons, I think an ancient Greek aristocrat would have no issue fucking Hunter Schafer
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If Nolan had real guts and moxie he would have cast Hunter as Helen, it would have been the greatest casting choice possible and upset the greatest number of the most insufferable types of people.
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross Achilles has nothing to do with the perfect western hero which is a tweeter thing. Achilles is a Greek archetype which in English world would be like describing the difference of 'ought to do ' and 'must do'. Every other character in Iliad 'must do' except Achilles.
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross Saint Basel's quote is about the ancient greek writers philosophical opinions. Not what were the sins of ancient greek heroes. You just pontificate and ascribe sins without even doing due diligence. It's clear you only have some familiarity with them through Hollywood.
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross Again. You just try to use consepts into things you don't know and render those concepts into nonsense. Basically protestantism with new buzzwords. Again it's ok if you don't know something. I know what Saint Basel wrote. You are using it out of context.
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I have many opinions on history and literature though grumble. It's ok that you don't like them.
Like: vainglory (kenodoxia in patristic terms, or the Greek pursuit of kleos and timē—fame and honor) is a core driver for both Achilles and Alexander.
It's not just a flaw or a feature; it's the engine. Hellenic culture before the Church's transformative work was saturated with passions (pathē) like hubris (arrogant overreach), thumos (spirited rage), and pleonexia (insatiable grasping for more)...
Some interesting thought on Hellenic culture is St. Basil the Great like how he advised young Christians to glean moral lessons from pagan literature. Warning that they should always subordinated it to Christ, exposing how those virtues, without grace, collapse into self-destruction and idolatry of the self.
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross Yes, because you know nothing about the 2 epics or Alexander the Great. Both of are quoting Hollywood movies.
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@rollingrumble @Orthodox_cross I have no idea what your on about grumble.
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross You are quoting the movie Troy. Not the Iliad or anything from Alexander the Great. Again, stop with the nonsense. If you don't know something it's ok not to have an opinion.
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@rollingrumble @Orthodox_cross "That is why no one will remember your name."
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross If you don't know something, don't comment on it especially using Christianity because you make a mockery of it and only remind people that you are a Protestant.
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@siabaaLee @Orthodox_cross Please. The both of you. Stop with your nonsense. You only ridicule Christianity.
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@SifiReturned Clearly neither you nor the mormon turkish larper have read the Iliad. There is a reason passages from the epic are in the New Tastement. And yes, Achelles is clearly the hero. By calling a friend "lover" only shows the english speaking protestant pornographic view.
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@rollingrumble I don’t know who that is or why you’re telling me this.
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@SifiReturned Thatcer guy is a mormon with turkish fixations.
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@SifiReturned ..."must" that Hector represented. Achilles had no duty to do anything but he did it anyway. The nonsence of diyng young etc is modern english invention with some Nitzean connections which are wrong.
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There is a reason why now why now the same population believes now the Virgin Mary had children with Joseph and David was in a "relationship" with Jonathan.
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