Ryan

@DaHubsTCG @Senor_Doom Never felt the need for second kang/wellspring and I like just having 2 clef that are searchable, could see it being different w/ pao though, haven’t tried that.

@ryanumtcg @Senor_Doom Also felt like I wanted stretchers with the amount of 1 ofs I feel like I need to use a few times (Wellspring, Clef, Khan) but also with C-Pao I've liked them.

First @Senor_Doom I love slop

@DaHubsTCG @Senor_Doom Leaning first for t2 pump but not sure. Second is pretty awkward if you can’t get a ko, first mostly guarantees first ko and then you just stay ahead. T1 leaves is mostly best for games where you can 1-2-3 with teal mask briar.

@ryanumtcg @Senor_Doom I was really liking getting an easy t1 attack off with leaves almost no matter what. So are you picking 2nd with it then?

@DaHubsTCG @Senor_Doom Never felt the need for stretchers, but obv you need to use clefairy twice sometimes, thought clef filled a similar role as pagos anyway. Really value leaves + cyrano for an easy t1 attack and I liked how legacy + briar work to either slow them a turn or speed up a turn yourself.

@DaHubsTCG @Senor_Doom x.com/dahubstcg/stat… Most of it is leftover from a list I made right after rotation. Made a few changes based on one of your lists. -Waterpon +area zeros was something I’d considered, liked the idea of more grass over retrievals as well.

@DaHubsTCG @Icecubez25 @Senor_Doom Big fan of just opening Lillie so I don’t think I’d cut any but cipher could be good as well. Really valuable to find legacy early so they can’t just boss around it for game.

@ryanumtcg @Icecubez25 @Senor_Doom Thoughts on Cipher? I agree that Lillie's is strong, but Cipher being able to search for prism / e switch / ace spec has felt awesome

@Icecubez25 @Senor_Doom Legacy is very good, swings 2 prize beatstick mirrors, buys a turn in most matchups if you don’t bench kang. If you do, legacy kang can still force briar. Also makes waterpon/clefairy attacks easier. Haven’t tried any other ace spec. 4 Lillie - best way to find prism/eswitch.

@ryanumtcg @Senor_Doom congrats, how did legacy feel? I know there is debate between stamp/prime/legacy in this deck, all feel pretty good. And I have seen some lists on 2-4 lillie’s do you think we need all 4?

Top 8 @Senor_Doom regional. Deck is decent, list is not (made it Friday night). Draw passing with ting-lus active in the mirror was very fun!

@TyloVortex @Senor_Doom Sick list and insane finals, ggs!

We take another @Senor_Doom tournament dub! I love this deck too much. I really think it’s the best variation of Grimm into this current meta. Thank you everyone for the fun games!

2nd @Senor_Doom, so worth staying up until 3am to experience the 6 froslass board in finals

@SapoSos_ls @Senor_Doom Thanks and ggs, congrats on top 4!

@ryanumtcg @Senor_Doom You did your best, great run buddy.

Top 8 in @Senor_Doom ToD regional. Prized 4 supporters and had to iono away 2 research in game 2 and threw game 3. Happy with the run overall but definitely should’ve gone further, embarrassing to farm dengo all weekend and scoop one into cut only to lose to it when it matters.

@UnitedWingz @Senor_Doom Basic decks have latias and most evolution decks (gardy, grimm, pult) have munkis so you need charm. If any non-bolt noctowl decks are popular it’s a good option but I don’t think it’s worth it now.

@ryanumtcg @Senor_Doom insane run and glad to see Froslass Munki on the map again, thoughts on adding gravity gemstone into the mix of tools?

@_munkidori_ @Senor_Doom Blood moon is terrible imo. Bad vs gardy/pult/grimm/dengo, worse and less versatile than shaymin as a bolt tech, doesn’t beat joltik without switch which is even worse, and if you start it you lose. Exploding needles damage and counter gain mind bend are more than enough.

@ryanumtcg @Senor_Doom Played the deck before how do you feel about no blood moon? Play tested your list and added a blood moon and made things feel way more easier in my opinion.

@Senor_Doom Thank you for making this gif it’s so peak

@ryanumtcg Your still the champion in our heart.

@Frodo_Htx 🥹

I legit cried on stream… @ryanumtcg it doesn’t matter who ends up winning. You’re already immortal

Happy to answer any questions about the list/matchups, I’m pretty confident this is pretty close to the optimal 60.

At higher levels of play you can’t skill check people as hard which is a nerf, and it’s tough to justify over grimm which is much more proven (grimm is way worse vs bolt, crustle though). For anything else (local/online events) it’s a great pick though!

@Frodo_Htx Gholdengo WW

@ryanumtcg has paired into his seventh gholdengo… Piloting Frosslass munkidori - NO GRIM