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Sercan Altun⚗

@sercanaltun

I make games'n stuff. Working on computer generated narratives.

Katılım Nisan 2009
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier I am laying out what dynamics are at play that creates this setup. Making populist pro-worker arguments may make you feel that you are better than me. They are easy to make. But without understanding the system you cannot change it. End up asking for non realistic things. Bye👋
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SlamaLlama@slama_will·
@sercanaltun @jasonschreier Yeah, because you for some reason think it's okay for a rich executive to make a mistake and people who had no part in it to lose their livelihoods as a result. Disgusting mindset. Bye.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier They cannot avoid it that easily if it is a "material" mistake. We are back to the what mistakes should be penalized for decision makers argument. We are going ever cyclical with this.
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SlamaLlama@slama_will·
@sercanaltun @jasonschreier Except they can get away with all that by just laying people off to appease shareholders. Thus: they do not face any actual risk. Theoretically, they should, but in practice, they just lay off 1,900 people who had nothing to do with their mistake.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier If you want more proper calculation of the risk, you can look for what insurance companies charge for liability insurance for executives/businesses. They have the formula.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier Thats also the reason why CEOs are usually already rich. You cannot recover money, from someone who has nothing to their name. This creates a CEO ladder, you start as CEO of smaller company until you get rich enough to be CEO of the bigger one.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier "Execs have 0 risk" vs "Execs sit on top of risk scaling with business" I think what is obvious is which one of these statement is reasonable. But of course, you decided what the solution is. Even though its not realistic solution, its popular. So it must be correct.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier Sounds nice, lets implement this principle! Are you ok with CEOs now asking %50 more salary for this? Because thats whats going to happen.
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SlamaLlama@slama_will·
@sercanaltun @jasonschreier Well, if somebody has to be penalized for losing these bets, it should be the person who made them, not the everyday workers who had nothing to do with it.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier Making bets is part of all businesses. You are just advocating execs to be penalized for every bet they lose. Otherwise "there is no risk" in your eyes. I am saying if that were the case, you either could not find anyone to do it or execs would ask for even more bloated salaries.
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SlamaLlama@slama_will·
@sercanaltun @jasonschreier But. There's. No. Risk. They screw things up and instead of suffering any consequences, they fire the people below them to save money instead of giving up any of their own paycheck. That's not risk. That's having an unchecked stranglehold on your workers.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier Thats why CEOs take bloated amount of salaries, just for sitting on the potential risk. Even if they are just sitting on it and doing nothing. No one would take that on otherwise. That is the side effect of big consolidated corporations.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier I know its not making anyone happy to talk about these things because everyone has some ideal of fairness and it doesn't feel fair. However, you would have to be an idiot to take average employee salary of 60k and be responsible for potentially 100s of mil of losses.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier Just out of curiosity: How do you think those executive salaries are calculated/negotiated? Is it value-generation based or is it based on exposure to financial risk and liability?
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SlamaLlama@slama_will·
@sercanaltun @jasonschreier Actually the best practice would be looking at other areas you can downsize, like bloated and undeserved executive salaries.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@slama_will @jasonschreier If you fire 1000 people one by one, with consideration of performance etc, you catch yourself 1000 potential wrongful termination lawsuits. You do it in a big batch, broad brushstrokes, department wide closures you get a cold but legally clean downsizing.Thats the "best practice"
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SlamaLlama@slama_will·
@jasonschreier Why does it keep happening like this?! What, the managers wake up in a cold sweat at 4 AM thinking "Quick! I've GOT to fire thousands of people! Who??? I dunno, just start scratching off names!"
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
Günün hottake'i. Jusant, game design'a kurban gitmiş.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@gruni @georgebsocial Since they are now saying there are two models, install fee or flat 2.5%, choice becomes: Either don't track install analytics and pay 2.5% of revenue numbers you receive from stores, or install analytics if you think you will get lower fee than 2.5%.
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Alexander ‘Gruni’ Grunert
@georgebsocial The question I’m shouting out of my lungs right now: How are they going to verify the legitimacy of self-reported numbers? That means TRACKING in your runtimes. Also: Editor-Online-DRM, you have to use Unity Hub and log in at least every 30 days or it stops working.
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George Broussard@georgebsocial·
Unity did well here. Sort of nailed it. This is more of a walk back than anyone could have expected. - removed the retroactive nature - not install based - kicks in on v2023LTS+ that ships in 2024 - requires $1m in yearly revenue, then 2.5% and you self report - This will only impact really successful games that choose to be on the very latest version Well done, Unity. The only people who complain now will be those that don't use the engine, want to troll, or are very unreasonable people. #gamedev #indiedev #indiegamedeveloper #unity #unity3d
Unity@unity

Here is an open letter to our community: on.unity.com/48rGiVu

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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@AxonsReplete @reduzio @W4Games I haven't read too deep into W4, but I read that it received investment and is privately funded. One day it may also have an IPO or an exit. Or acquired by some bigger firm. I would rather have providing the console support to be included in non-profit Foundation's mission.
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Sercan Altun⚗@sercanaltun·
@AxonsReplete @reduzio @W4Games I think it is an understandable characterization and easily avoidable. Keeping the Foundation 100% with pure open source focus provides no real value other than sounding cool. It introduces uncertainty. Which is what devs are trying to escape after recent events.
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