Seth Schwab
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Seth Schwab
@sethaschwab
@madelineschwab • @discoveratlanta • @firstnorfolk
Virginia Beach, VA Katılım Mart 2015
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enduring the persecution of my brethren in my dorm common room saying to me, "Brady washed," "Pats suck"
Pats Planet 🪐@PatsPlanet_
What were you doing at this moment? 👀
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she is correct.
(as someone who hates using illustrations)
Rebecca McLaughlin@RebeccMcLaugh
Pastors: You know how when you go to the grocery store you need bags to get the food home? You congregation similarly needs stories & metaphors to bag up what you're teaching. If you don't give them one *at least* every 5 mins, they will tune out & forget your words.
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this makes me get up outta my seat every time
Matt Smethurst@MattSmethurst
One of the best sermon clips I’ve ever seen.
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@Seth_Troutt "was it for him or for you?" in that convo was heart-piercing in the greatest way - such a fantastic question. so good.
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“If I hit him in the head one more time with that microwave, he’d be dead.”
Today in the sauna, a dude, late 40s, big beard, tatted-up arms and legs, about 6’2”, 275 pounds walked in wearing a shirt that said ‘Dead pedophiles don’t reoffend.’
“Tell me about your shirt,” I said to him.
“Ah, my buddy started this company,” he responded.
“Yeah, but you wouldn’t wear something with that punchy of a message if it wasn’t meaningful to you.”
“You’re right. I wear it all the time. Only one guy has given me shit about it. I threw his gym bag across the gym. He never came back here. I’m a biker. We protect women and children. It’s part of our thing.”
“How did you start caring so deeply about that? That has to come from somewhere?” I asked.
“Yeah. I was molested as a child for a couple of years by a family friend. But it’s all good now - I was able to avenge myself.”
“I’m so sorry that happened to you. That isn’t fair. How did that vengeance happen?”
“Well,” he began, “when I was 32, I didn’t seek him out, but ran into him in the lunchroom in an office. I snapped on him, beating him within inches of death. I had to pay a lot of money in damages, mostly for the things that were broken in the lunchroom. But I didn’t get a criminal conviction. Other people came forward that he had molested. He’s doing time now. Sometimes I wish I’d killed him, but I think him having to live with the consequences of his actions is a better punishment. He can’t speak or walk anymore.”
“This vengeance you got - was it for him or for you? Do you think you needed that to happen to him or do you think he needed that to happen to him?” I asked.
“Good question. Maybe both. I’m a big justice guy.”
“I have another question that might be offensive. Can I ask it?”
“Go for it.”
“People talk a lot about forgiveness. How does that apply here?”
“Well. I’m a God-fearing man, so I believe in forgiveness. I also believe in consequences. I’m not always sure how they fit together,” he said.
“I’m not always sure either. You’re a God-fearing man. Do you think you need God’s forgiveness?”
“Yes. And I hope I get it. I think I’ll be with him in the afterlife.”
“How do you think people get forgiveness? How do people get in?”
“By being a good person. God can see your intentions. He weighs the good and bad. He knows your heart. I’m about 60/40 on making it, I think. I also think he understands that some do bad things because bad things have been done to them, so he’s more lenient.”
“Where did you hear that? Where’d your view of how people get to heaven come from?”
“Church. I go to one around here.”
“Interesting. Do you believe the Bible?”
“Yes.”
“Well, I want to be very clear about something: what you described is not what the Bible teaches. It is wildly different, actually.”
“Oh yeah? How so?” He asked with surprise, not offense, on his face.
“It is by grace you have been saved through faith, not your own doing… so that no man can boast. That’s Ephesians 2:8-9. Faith is about believing your sins deserved death and that Jesus died in your place; it’s trusting the salvation offered by Jesus, rather than trusting in your intentions or deeds to get you saved. Nobody gets into heaven because of what’s been done to them by others or because of what they’ve done. Only by grace through faith. A God-fearing man knows he’s under the judgement of God. A good-news believing man also knows that Jesus was judged in your place.”
“Ah. That’s in Ephesians?”
“Yep. Do you believe Jesus died for your sin, rose from the dead, and is the Lord of your life?”
“I haven’t put it that way before, but yes.”
“Then you shouldn’t be 60/40 on heaven. You should be 100/0 on walking with God for eternity.”
“But I still don’t know much. I’m still not that great of a follower.”
“I feel the same way. You’ll grow in knowledge and obedience the rest of your life. In the meantime, pedophiles being afraid isn’t a bad thing.”
“Good talk. I have some rethinking to do. I knew Jesus died, but I didn’t know it was about grace,” he said as we left the hot room.
Three thoughts on evangelism:
Someone being a God-fearer does not make them a Christian. But they are fruit ripe for harvest! More and more, people concerned with justice and ethics recognize that reality requires an author. I think most converts in the next few years will come from the “reality respecter” camp cc @jamesrwoods
What people wear is a window into what they value. Fashion choices are about love; what they care about and how they want to be perceived. Almost every fashion choice connects to sex, money, or power. In this case, it was power and the abuse of power. If you want to start conversations with people, ask them, without being weird, about what they’re wearing and why, especially if it has text. Today I saw shirts that said “Normal mom’s club” and “All Pain No Gain” and “Lion’s Not Sheep” and “Kirkland Brand.” All of these would have been great conversation starters. Themes of frugality, pragmatism, desirability, “being normal” or accepted, and politics will emerge. These are bridges for sharing the good news.
You can’t swing at every pitch. Trust the Spirit to pull you into the conversations he has for you.
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