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@parjanyudu @manoskol @psychotakes Please note you introduced mutual intelligibility after the first claim. We acquiesced this is virtually impossible for the modern speaker. However, on a spectrum of intelligibility, modern speakers can understand some degree of Koine. Katharevousa was mentioned in this vein.

@sofy66a @manoskol @psychotakes Even Koine and other later forms of AG will require previous training as a foreign language before achieving mutual intelligibility with Modern Greek [Horrocks, Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers, 2010, pp. 2] (Note: there are additional semantic issues!).

Homer's Iliad Book 1 Lines 1-27 in Restored Ancient Greek Meter, Pitch Accents & Pronunciation with English translation.

@parjanyudu @manoskol @psychotakes You originally posited 'Ancient' Greek as a whole is foreign to modern speakers, Koine is generally considered part of that spectrum. The Homeric literary dialect is a valid point, but our confusion regarding your first claim is not unwarranted.

@manoskol @sofy66a @psychotakes I'm talking about Homeric Greek, not Koine. What is fictional about my explanation? Only thing fictional is your statement "...over 80% same language phonological..." drawn from thin air without any citation.

@parjanyudu @psychotakes I acquiesce the point is not relevant for the Ionic dialect, to which Homeric/Epic Greek belongs.

@sofy66a @psychotakes Intelligibility is not merely picking up a few words; It is being able to mutually understand each other without aid. The intelligibility of Modern & Homeric Greek would be so negligibly low that speakers in antiquity would have to learn Modern Greek as a foreign language.

Goethe, Ever and Everywhere

@parjanyudu @psychotakes I’d argue low intelligibility, not zero, considering retained verb paradigms and use of the definite article. Iotacism was also well underway in the Koine period so it depends on definition of ‘ancient’ speaker, although admittedly not relevant for the Ionic dialect here.

@sofy66a @psychotakes It is not a gross exaggeration; The only intelligibility Modern Greek speakers have of Ancient Greek is primarily due to exposure and using the Greek script. An Ancient Greek speaker would likely have no intelligibility of Modern Greek with its diverged mophophonology & semantics

@parjanyudu @psychotakes This is a gross exaggeration; the video is well-produced but not above comment

@psychotakes Ancient Greek is a foreign language to Modern Greek in terms of phonology, morphology and mutually intelligibility. There is no native speaker of Ancient Greek.

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Pella, extraordinaire mosaïque de la Chasse au lion, détails.

@matilda_antifa @arisoikon Εύστοχο

@arisoikon Είναι ίδια κατηγορία με αυτούς που λένε στους πάντες να φύγουν από την Αθήνα λες και από βίτσιο κάθονται εκεί όχι γιατί όλες οι δουλειές/εταιρίες/υποδομές μαζεύτηκαν στην πρωτεύουσα.

Υπάρχει μια ολόκληρη γενιά ανθρώπων που ζούσε στην επαρχία ασκώντας αυτά τα επαγγέλματα και έκανε ό,τι πέρναγε από το χέρι τους για να μην κάνουν το ίδιο τα παιδιά τους. Τώρα ελαφρά την καρδία κάποιοι προτείνουν επιστροφή στο παρελθόν (αλλά για τους αλλους, ποτέ για τους ίδιους)

Interwar apartment buildings in Athens designed by Kostas Kitsikis. High density, but aesthetically very beautiful. A few more of these would have been good for the city...

Ibn al-Qayyim said: “It’s well known that the existence of the Lord is more evident to the intellects and natural dispositions than the existence of daylight. Whoever does not perceive this in their intellect and natural disposition, then let him suspect them [of a deficiency].”

@thecladux Είμαστε άξιοι της μοίρας μας, ο Θεός μου δεν είναι σκληρός

@thecladux Honestly, I don’t find an issue with amulets containing only written scripture

@Ancapta This is entirely reductive of mathematics, in particular pure maths, which requires heavy ‘thinking’, proving, and theory. You are describing a small subset of elementary applied math courses that would be taken in high/secondary school or an engineering program.

Iphigenia in Tauris. Epidaurus, 1958

@taymiplayboy danke schön 😊

@sofy66a You count as one as well

Almost Sophie Germain day!