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@ChIMeRaTeX @ShinobiVaultHQ How is Kaido a heavy hitter but not Luffy?

@ShinobiVaultHQ There is only one trio on this list with 3 heavy hitters. Trio 2. 1: Xebec and Loki 3: Kaido and WB 4: Garp I know we've barely seen anything from Mihawk, but based on what we know and what we were told, he should be at Shanks level, that makes trio 2 standout with 3 top tiers.

Which trio do y'all think would win here and which one would lose first?

@NasroNa84746244 @Jaydan133

@Jaydan133 Ragnir > admirals and yonkos except shanks

Should ragnir be considered a top tier

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 ? Wb obviously used haki only against Akainu, he cant damage logias without it. And he only damaged Akainu. Since he didnt touch Akainu, it means he infused his quake with haki Since Kuzan wasnt damaged, wb didnt use haki against him Its not rocket science, bruh

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 That would just mean hes using haki 😭 why wouldnt he be using haki in either of these attacks? 😭😭😭 i like how you hinge your argument on this not happening then as soon as it happens you pivot to “well WB couldnt even use haki!!” When we know thats false. GG

No Mythical Zoan possesses elemental powers that surpass a Logia’s There’s a reason Logias have always been portrayed as the most broken devil fruit class Ice Ice fruit > Ice squirrel fruit

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 ah yes, because Whitebeard not damaging Kuzan when destroying his attack absolutely proves Wb cant infuse haki into his quakes, sure bro😹 Meanwhile Wb slapping the shit out of Akainu with a gura punch doesnt mean anything debate brain at its finest

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 Oh so a goal post shift? Got it 😭 “uhhh no bro whitebeard didnt use haki because… well he just didnt ok he wanted to do 0 damage for no reason” beaten on both accounts

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 or right here, no way Whitebeard didnt use haki against Imu

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 wb just shattered Kuzans ice attack here, his goal wasnt to damage Kuzan, I think Wb could clearly imbue haki into his gura attacks

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 taking control over a large organisation doesnt mean you have good haki, otherwie Sengokus haki would be top 5 as well, lmao then show me the panel where wb does that

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 We dont know that. Loki has strong haki sure but akainu and aokiji were fighting to take control of the largest and strongest military organisation in the world, you cannot say theyve bad haki. Thats not the panel im referring to.

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 I never said they can't use haki, just that it's not on Lokis level, lmao And I'm pretty sure Wb never hit Aokiji with a quake attack. He tried stabbing Kuzan once, which didn't work, but that was because he did the Katakuri thing Talking about me not reading the series, smh

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 Apparently akainu and aokiji cant use haki 😭 what is this headcanon of ace not using haki? Because WB hit aokiji with a quake and it didnt do shit to him. You clearly havent read the series mb

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 Are you dense? Loki, Luffy, and Imu always imbue haki into their attacks, they just use both haki and dfs. Ace also generally didn't use haki (especially coc), and what in gods name makes you think wb couldn't infuse haki into his quakes?

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 “Devil fruits arent that important anymore” 😭 loki is heavily reliant on his fruit so is luffy and loki getting negged by a df rn. Theres less than 0 proof of it, ace could use haki but said his fire couldnt harm smoker, WB couldnt infuse haki nto his quakes.

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 ? There's clearly conquerors haki imbued into the lightning. What makes you think you can't infuse haki into non physical things. And devil fruits aren't that important anymore, haki is just way more important. What good haki feat does Kuzan (or Akainu) have?

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 Cant infuse non physical things with haki, you were just looking at a lightning effect. Akainu has a devil fruit with “the pinnacle of offensive power” (insane stat) and could endure fighting 10 days with another fruit thats at the pinnacle, both having insane haki too.

@IgorFella @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 How is he immune to Lokis lightning attacks, Loki can put conquerors haki on that😂 And Akainu doesn't have any good feats either, so aside from stamina and being immune to Ragnirs ice, Aokiji doesn't have any advantages

@stfulFAO @zkimdracula @spartiate72815 Being immune to his dragon lightning attacks and proably immune to his ice attacks, along with having far better stamina and endurance to fight the peak of the verses DF AP for 10 days straight, with the AP to match it. Loki cant even land hits on static targets when transformed

@zkimdracula @spartiate72815 How is Kuzan beating Loki?

@spartiate72815 kuzan beats loki why are they matching him up against his pet

@Neo81572344 @BasedDuckAlt Kaido viewed Roger as the pinnacle of haki. Roger was more or less equal to Rocks, whos equal to normal Harald. Harald became a holy knight, and a giant strength boost with that, and Loki obliterated Holy knight Harald

@stfulFAO @BasedDuckAlt don't see the correlation here

Kaido is the Wano katakuri of Elbaf

@Neo81572344 @BasedDuckAlt Unless you think Kaido is stronger then Roger, Loki has powercliffed Kaido...

@stfulFAO @BasedDuckAlt I mean as of right now obv he would be powercliffed to oblivion but not so soon

@AtheistOwner @michaelod0123 @Leophilius What does "all science" tell us about gods existance?

@michaelod0123 @Leophilius If you're uneducated and ignore all science.

It doesn't.

@Neo81572344 @BasedDuckAlt What do you mean he's not affected by the powershift of the story? Luffy isnt gonna stop growing, and he's already surpassed Kaido

@BasedDuckAlt Kaido is bare minimum as strong as Loki and isn't affected by the powershift in the story (other than Imu the final villain of the show)

@Asunalovesrin @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 some claims just cant be proven without sufficient evidence, but that doesnt mean a claim like that cant be proven. Like, I can prove that a car isnt moving, or that 11 is not more then 10

@stfulFAO @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 “Godzilla isn’t real” can I for a fact prove this. “Tokyo doesn’t exist” in a hypothetical where it doesn’t can I prove this. It’s a negative you can’t and don’t have to. You cannot “prove” Something doesn’t exist or doesn’t do something LMAO.

#ONEPIECE1182 Imu is DOMINATING Loki despite what many fans would like to believe. Imu is faster than Loki, Omen easily counter Ragna-Five arrows & Thorheim and Loki only hit him when he's distracted. I know certain fans (Shanks/Mihawk fans) want a upscale, but there's none.

@Asunalovesrin @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 Are you high or something? You claimed Loki isnt going all out. You need to give evidence for that, not the other way around

@stfulFAO @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 @Barca_Wizard That’s how a negative vs a positive works. I don’t need to prove something can’t do something. LMAO. “Godzilla isn’t real” “prove that” like what.

@Asunalovesrin @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 @Barca_Wizard ? Why can't you do that? Like, I can prove to you that there is can't be a smallest positive, rational, number You just made a nonsensical claim for agenda purpouses

@stfulFAO @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 @Barca_Wizard I made the negative stance that Loki isn’t going all out. You cannot prove a negative. If I say “my mom can’t do this” how can I prove that to you? “The apple can’t be red”. All negative stances. You’d need to contend that negative w a positive. This is basic shit 💀

@Asunalovesrin @Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 @Barca_Wizard Bruh, you made the claim that Loki is going all out, what the fuck is he supposed to prove😂

@Luffyriderr1018 @Samoligoat123 @Barca_Wizard I’ll take that as a concession. You retards love making claims you can’t prove. Ts sad lowkey.