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@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 To say Jesus wasn’t crucified would ignore the entire point of his coming into the World. He was born miraculously of a Virgin Mary as the Messiah, with the single mission to fulfill the prophecy of a savior humanity needed due to their fallen nature.

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 Jesus couldn't save himself. God saved him, he didn't crufied.

John 8:58

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 The Dead Sea scrolls align with the modern Masoretic text. Arguing semantics does not disprove the validity and consistency of the text.

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 The Dead Sea Scrolls (Qumran Scrolls) have shown that they contain some differences from the Bible as we know it today.

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 There are no contradictions or additions in the Bible. There is an Old Testament and a New Testament all of which is what we call the Bible (66 Books.) Because the Bible is the most sold Book in history, it has needed various translations for understanding across the word.

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 The very science of "Textual Criticism" within the Christian world proves this: contradictions and later additions (e.g., Mark 16:9-20 or John 8:1-11) found in thousands of different manuscripts (Codex Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, etc.) are now an academic fact.

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 The word Trinity is an explanation of the “Oneness of God.” It explains how 3 are one and equal in nature. In other words, it’s the exact same message and meaning.

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 Particularly as a result of the interaction between Paul's teachings and Roman paganism (Council of Nicaea, 325 AD), the belief in "Oneness of God" was transformed into "Trinity."

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 The Qur’an was written by Men and it claims to be from God. Does that mean the Qur’an is blasphemous?

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 [Q 2:79] points to this situation: "Woe to those who write the book with their own hands and then say, 'This is from God,' so that they may sell it for a paltry price!" In Christianity: It occurred within the first 300 years after Jesus.

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 All of these words you have used to describe the previous scriptures are defined in authority. Guardian: someone or something that guards (in this case the Word) the Overseer: a person who supervises (in this case the Word), and corrector of errors (correction of Truth)

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 The Quran does not accept the previous scriptures as they were; it affirms them as "Al-Muheymin" (the Guardian, the Overseer, and the Corrector of Errors), as mentioned in verse [Q 5:48].

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 It also is very clear when it says Jesus is the way, the truth, and the Life. Not Muhammad or any other Prophet.

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 The Quran offers historical evidence by saying, "If you do not believe me, then look at them; you will see that we are of the same origin." This is not because it was influenced by them, but because it is the original source of the message sent to them ❤️☪️🕊

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 Right. The original message in the Bible is very clear when it says “You shall not add to the word that I speak to you, neither shall you take away from it: keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you” Deut. 4:2

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 If the text was corrupted then you would have an answer backed by historical evidence to my questions which are: When did this corruption take place? Who did it? Why was it done? What was changed?

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 The Quran explicitly states that Jews and Christians corrupted the texts in their possession by "changing the order of words" or "concealing" them. You can check the verses: [Q 2:75], [Q 4:46], [Q 5:13].

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 Why would a book that claims to be the final authority point back to writings that came 500 years before it to confirm its teachings? Is it fair to say that these teachings were drawn from or influenced by the scriptures found in the Bible?

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 The polytheists of that time were saying, "Can a human be a prophet?" Verse tells them: "Ask those who know the ancient scriptures; the messengers who came to them were not angels, but humans." [Q 16:43] This verse supports this: "If you don't know, then ask people of remembrance

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 It is written in Surah Yunus (10:94)

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 Quran never say it, I guess you mean a hadith? Bukhari Hadiths writed 250 years after Great Envoy Muhammed dead.

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 If Muhammad truly received revelation from God, then why does the Qur’an say to go to those who have been reading the Scriptures before you (Christians and Jews) if you have doubts? And if the Qur’an is the true book, why would it direct people to seek guidance from other books?

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 Cause Jesus is not God :) That's why they never mentioned lol, If Muhammad had invented a new religion, he would have spread Islam much faster by calling Jesus God, and today all of Eastern Europe would be Muslim. But he took true revelation from the God. And Jesus is not God.

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 Why would the Torah and Quran mention Jesus being God?

@sudevaaaa @Richard_gh1 Sure lol you find excuses for everything to console yourself. If Jesus would be equal to God, the Torah would also mention this, so also Quran too. But none of them mentioned Jesus's being God and trinity. Also if Jesus would be God, he would save himself without God's helping :)

@Hittitia @Richard_gh1 Jesus and The Father are equal. Jesus says the Father is greater because at this point he was in a flesh suit, not his true form and glory.

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