@DavidDdnohades@DesirableTruth Moral arguments are weak, even if we conceded to the fact he married a 9 year old and that puberty is the criterion not age. Can you prove that’s objectively immoral?
💥🇸🇦🇺🇸 US senator Lindsey Graham says If Saudi Arabia didn't join US war against Iran, there will be consequences.
Saudi Social media users call Lindsey Graham nobody can dictate Saudi Arabia.
@mobaqr@TDD511@2hm_1997@ksa_90x قيادة النساء قياس للدول العالم الاول؟ اهم المعايير التي تفرق الاول عن الثالث هي مستوى الدخل والوفرة المواردية، مؤشرات التنمية البشرية العالية، تكنولوجية متقدمة، بنى تحتية عامة متكاملة، سيادة قانون فعالة، تكامل بالأسواق والتمويل الدولي، الخ. وانت تقيس بقيادة مراة! الله المستعان
@TDD511@2hm_1997@ksa_90x السعودي هل ايام يستخدم مصطلح دول العالم الثالث هواي ترة لسة اذكر الترند مال نساء من فرحت الحكومة راح تسمحلهن يسوقن سيارات واني وكتها كنت متفاجئ ومو فاهم الفكرة عبالي اني بسبب اللهجات مكاعد اعرف القرار الجديد اخير شيء عرفت انه كان ممنوع تسوق النساء !!!!!!؟؟؟؟
@MotivBills@toeenXD@CountAtlas اللاعبين وجميع الاحداث الرياضية استثمار. وموسم الرياض كذلك كلها استثمارات ومشاريع بمقصد تحقيق ارباح. وليست سرقة لثروات البلد.
@Fina1_@shelim316@H44vqq@MiddleEastEye Stop lying, saudi revoked osama bin laden’s saudi citizenship in 1994 while he was living in exile in Sudan then Afghanistan way before he did the supposed attacks.
@shelim316@H44vqq@MiddleEastEye He's not wrong, just look at Osama Bin Laden he's a Saudi terrorist. Saudi were quick to throw him out when the US came knocking at their door.
@nocontextnewses@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall This is a red herring. You’re deflcting. We’re discussing morality, not the truth of every belief i may hold. The burden of proof applies to claims being made in a discussion, not an obligation to defend all of one’s beliefs at any time. You’re misunderstanding burden of proof.
@nocontextnewses@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall Saying “we learned by suffering” already assumes that suffering is bad. That is precisely what needs to be proved, saying a belief arose from suffering does nothing to show the belief is true. Why is the new version better than the “barbaric” old version objectively?
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall The same way you do, through learned experience and being taught by others. Historically, we learned through suffering, even through the most barbaric times (when religiosity dominated the world).
@AuxjanqXiii@AKayNoTrace@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall Thats Self-defeat, the subjectivity undermine morality’s existence, and makes moral disagreement equally valid. Then no society can be condemned. Yet u attack christians as morally deficient. That is a contradiction u cant both deny objective morality and issue moral indictments.
@t8nnq@AKayNoTrace@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall Thats why morality is subjective. And is usually agreed upon in a given society. Like Christians dont find it morally wrong enough to not touch kids. But atheists build their morality on the well being of others. Hence why rape would be wrong. You need to be told so. Thats you
@AKayNoTrace@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall That fails to establish morality. “Well being” is assumed, not justified. You’re Assuming that well being ought to be morally decisive. That the point in dispute. Why should well being have normative authority. It explains why humans care, not why anyone ought to.
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall Because we don’t want those negative psychological effects, it doesn’t contribute to our well being. Our morals are built around the well being of our social species.
@nothingleft4u3@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall You’re conflating practical skills/ empirical matters with meta-ethical justification. The first based on observable results, but meta-ethics asks why is harming someone wrong? The popularity hint cannot establish normative truth. Citing philosophers doesn’t prove your assumption
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall Most scientist say drinking is bad is that ad populum too?
Most nba players say too shoot you need a good form? Is that also ad populum?
Fucking retard just stop it
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall Just listen to grok since your so stupid it won’t say religion is dumb it can’t it’s ai
But 7/10 philosophers don’t agree about theism at all
Please tell me why ur avoiding that fact and how stupid it makes everything ur saying look!
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall I have a minor in philosophy
You are an idiot.
Majority of major Philsophers (study of moral obligation itself) carry atheist beliefs
Your spitting around words to make yourself look smart you’re embarrassing yourself by trusting your 3,000 fairy tale as a moral obligation
@nothingleft4u3@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall This is a statement of personal preference, not a justification for objective moral obligation. No offense, clearly you don’t understand epistemology and the philosophy of ethics, do some reading to avoid embarrassing yourself, and wasting my time. Maybe use ai, to help you.
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall You sound absolutely fucking crazy
Why is harm bad? Simple i don’t want people to get hurt? You need fucking GOD to tell you that. What the hell is wrong with you people? Why should I care for society? Cuz I live in it my family friends kids and other people do?
@nothingleft4u3@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall This just an assumption there is no objective criterion here morality is effectively reduced to preference or social utility, not obligation. Why is harm bad? Why should one care for society? You didn’t give anything.
@t8nnq@d0wnsideofme@simplymsnobody@ZakKnowsBall I just told you
Does this better society or not that simple
Do you need to check ur book to know if cancer is bad and worsen society? That drugs worsen society?
Are you just that incapable of thinking for yourself that much?