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@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety You went from saying I'm still a real fan despite not playing every game and not finishing every game I did play (with MM as some arbitrarily required game), to saying flat out that you're not a real fan unless you've played every game in the series from start to finish

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety I'm just saying if you have such an absolutist definition of what a "fan" is, then why not make that a requirement, no? I will also say your outlook does seem to have radically changed throughout this convo

Damn the whole timeline is mobbed in this real/larp Zelda fan nonsense As a certified Zelda elder (35, bald, still own my original Link to the Past on SNES), here’s a simple rule of thumb: If you like Zelda stuff then you’re a real Zelda fan Fierce Deity has spoken

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety So you're saying it's okay to skip content that doesn't appeal to you, and you're not a larper for doing so? 🤔

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Because tears of the kingdom should have been a DLC and breath of the wild was worst than the CDI games.

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Not a real fan then. If you really like the series so much, then why are you skipping content you larper?

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety fuck finding every korok, but yes to the rest, even played the CDI games.

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety lmao sure thing man, I take it you've played them all cover to cover too? Gotten every heart piece, smelted every kinstone, killed every golden skulltula, found every korok, all that?

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety yea finish every games and come back, if not no your not a fan.

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety There are 20 mainline Zelda games and I can name at least 10 off the top of my head that I'd rather play instead. Almost like taste is subjective and not everyone agrees on the quality or importance of specific games

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety considering there is like 30 games, yea it is one of the better ones.

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Kind of implies that you can be "too late" to even start on a series which just makes no sense. You're 26 and didn't start on Zelda until you were 24? Fake fan, larper, a true fan would've run through the whole series when they were 15 at the oldest. Sorry not sorry.

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Right, I did have a lot of fun playing Zelda at age 0 But fr tho, not everyone's gonna have the chance to play Zelda games in their childhood depending on their circumstances. Regardless, saying "you've had [X] years" is an incredibly dismissive and kinda stupid outlook

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety More like you've chosen to be pedantic again. "One of the better games" means at least in the top half of the series bare minimum, which still doesn't match fan reception

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Again you have failed to read. "one of the better games" does not mean "among the best in the series"

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Zelda is 40 years old but I'm sure not, and I doubt you are either, so that doesn't really hold water

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety zelda is like 40 years old, you have had time to play them all.

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Because taste is subjective maybe? I mean, if everyone shared your opinion that the Oracle games were among the best in the series, wouldn't there be like... anyone at all talking about them like they do with games like OoT and BotW?

@xooxoomer @theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Why would a fan skip one of the better games they have made?

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Well, for one thing, some people have jobs, responsibilities, etc and don't have time to marathon every new series they take interest in. For another, as I said already, not every Zelda game is going to appeal to everyone just as much as all the others

@theumbrellasys @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Why would someone who loves a series not also though themselves head first into it?

@TheSlimeRain @xooxoomer @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Again, it's fine to hold yourself to that unreasonably lofty standard if you want to ig, but don't project it onto everyone else

@xooxoomer @theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Not at all, When I discovered the disk world book I read all 41 within 2 months. Then went looking for more books like it.

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety When you boil it down to its absolute essence, yeah, but you're lying to yourself if you think the series's many gimmicks don't fundamentally change how each game is played

@theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety the core ideas are the same they are all dungeon crawling adventures, mixed in with puzzles and fighting.

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety OoT has adult and young Link, MM has the 3 day time loop, WW has the toon art style and the great sea, TP has wolf Link and the twilight realm, SS has the loftwing and heavy use of motion controls, etc. Not everyone is going to like all of these things. (2/2)

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Brother, how can you say every Zelda game is similar when the series has two entirely different genres it bounces back and forth between? Sure, each of the pre-BotW games have a similar formula, but they each have distinct gimmicks that make them stand out. (1/?)

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Good news, if you like a series enough to put that much energy into it... then you are a fan

@theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Yes it does, If I'm not a fan and I put that much into a series, then no your not a fucking fan of Zelda after playing one game.

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Malicious misinterpretation aside, I think they shouldn't have to be interested in every entry in the franchise, no, especially when each one is so different from the others. This series is 40 years old, not every entry is going to appeal to every fan

@theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety So you think a fan wouldn't be interested in what they claim to be a fan off.

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety That doesn't really answer the question

@theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety I have a couple hundred hours into yakuza, 100% on 0, 1, 2 and 3. and No I am not a fan. Maybe when I catch up and have played them all.

@TheSlimeRain @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety I mean, that's fine for you, but I think holding everyone else up to that standard is a touch unreasonable. Zelda is a series where every game offers something unique and different from the others. It naturally follows that each entry will have some who aren't interested

@theumbrellasys @RealGBStudios @dafiercediety Yes. If you were a fan would you not want to consume everything you can from it? Why would you skip some major ones? When I got into the discworld novels I read every single one, one after the after, all 41 one off them.