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认真讨论帖，最近越来越多的声音表示，区块链是为 AI 准备的，Agent 间的支付将 N 倍于人类支付，于是有了 ERC8004，ERC8183 等 但我对 Agent 间相互雇佣这个未来表示怀疑，人类会将很多工作外包给其他人完成，是因为人类太弱了，自己搞不定，但是大模型会越来越强大，他会趋向于自己完成（如果他有意识）。 如果 Agent 没意识，而是服务于人这个主体， 可能更多的时候，还是使用现在的订阅支付，因为路径依赖很难摆脱，加密支付并没有很大的优势 作为从业者，肯定希望加密支付能被应用在 Agent 上，但是目前看不懂，大家怎么看，有朋友一起讨论一下么？

玩 OpenClaw/Claude Code/Codex/... 一段时间后，有没有发现，你以为多了几个 AI 员工来节省你的时间，但你每天却要不断引导它们，给它们续费，担心它们不积极，又担心它们乱搞，搞出一堆废品还浪费了海量 token，你比以前更忙了，睡的也少了，离开电脑还得带个手机来完成远程监工。 折腾几个月下来，钱花了不少，废品也做出了不少。唯一的好消息是，你以为自己跟上了时代...😭

It took another two months but Chrome 146 is out since yesterday! And *that* means: with a single toggle, you can expose your current live browsing session via MCP and have your CLI agent do things in it. Aaand I have been waiting to deal with my LI connects until this moment.

This is the new EF Mandate. For many of you, the contents should be no surprise, and a clarification along the lines that we have been going and thinking for the past few months. But the clarification is nevertheless worth making. Ethereum is a unique object and has a unique role in the world. Its role is to be a sanctuary technology, to preserve technological self-sovereignty, to enable cooperation without coercion, domination or rugpulling, and to provide an escape hatch, to ensure that no single person, organization or ideology's victory in cyberspace can be total. The Ethereum Foundation is a steward of Ethereum - the original steward, and today, the steward specifically dedicated to preserving and expanding the above aspects of Ethereum. This means a heavy emphasis on CROPS (censorship and capture resistance, open source, privacy, security), both at the protocol layer, and at the access layer, user-facing applications and tools that we create or contribute to. There are things that we do in Ethereum because we believe that they are valuable for the underlying goals that we have for Ethereum. There are things that we do not do because from the perspective of our values we find them uninteresting (or worse, harmful). But there are also things that we do not do because while they are useful, they are not our role. At the Ethereum protocol layer, we focus on decentralization, verifiability, inclusion guarantees, protocol liveness, security and privacy first and foremost. We also value capabilities (eg. L1 scale, account abstraction, perhaps some forms of in-protocol aggregation), particularly because improvements in these capabilities better enable users to properly benefit from Ethereum's CROPS properties and displace the need for higher-layer intermediaries that might weaken the extent to which Ethereum's properties carry over into the full stack. We also believe that the Ethereum protocol must strive to pass the walkaway test. "We do X to specialize to serve the use cases of today, if more use cases appear later, we will continue to keep adding more EIPs for them later" is logic fit for many other blockchains whose names you hear often on this forum, but we do not believe it is logic fit for a decentralization-first blockchain like Ethereum. At the application layer, we focus on making "the zero option" - user experience that goes hard on ensuring security and privacy, avoiding dependence on intermediaries, and respecting the user's agency - as high quality as possible. We see this as complementary to work in the Ethereum ecosystem that "goes broad", starting from the world that it exists, and brings it onchain and improves its properties over time. Such work has its natural home outside the EF. We intend to be supportive of such efforts. We believe that the two are complementary: tools that are developed within the EF can be adopted by anyone, including partially, and even partial adoption that improves people's security, privacy and agency is a good thing. But the form of user experience that is more heavily insistent on CROPS properties is where we want the EF to develop its center of expertise. This does not mean shrinking from the hard questions. We believe in a vision of self-sovereignty that protects users, and does not leave users in the cold to face environments where they lose their life savings if they make a mistake, and click "yes" on a confirmation screen by accident two seconds after. But such protection must be designed based on a philosophical baseline of empowering the user, not empowering centralized organizations that claim to act in the user's name. This quadrant of design space - caring about users' (including non-experts') well-being and safety, and yet insistent on doing this in a way compatible with their agency and freedom, is underserved (not just in crypto, but in the world). We wish to use Ethereum as a platform to build out and showcase this quadrant, and ideally work with others to expand its reach over time. This is also a new chapter in how we see our position in the world. We must see ourselves not just as the Ethereum community, but also as maintainers of the Ethereum tool within what you might call the CROPS community or the sanctuary tech community, or a dozen of other words that have for a long time been used by people with similar values to us but far outside Ethereum. This means open-mindedness to new conceptions of what things in the world are our natural allies. Ethereum is not the world. Ethereum is a specific object in the world that is here to have specific properties. The Ethereum Foundation is a specific organization within Ethereum - one steward, not the sole one. I encourage all to read the mandate in detail; it includes concrete examples of how we intend to deal with the challenges and nuances of these ideas. We are doubling down on Ethereum and are excited about its next chapter.

5000多万美元，一次点击确认过后，只剩3.6万美元！对用户来说，这个教训有点大！ Aave创始人Stani Kulechov提到： 有个用户想用5000多万美元的USDT，在Aave的界面上直接兑换AAVE代币。 不过， 用户一次性下单5000多万美元，超级大的订单。 界面弹出警告：滑点会超级高，需要用户勾选确认才行。 这个用户不知道基于什么原因，竟然点了确认，继续执行。 结果，5000多万美元，只换了324个AAVE，价值3.6万美元，相当于亏了99.9%的钱。